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<time begin="1"/><clear/>OKAY. 
<time begin="3"/><clear/>THIS IS GARY JENSEN WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. 
<time begin="6"/><clear/>WE WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY. 
<time begin="14"/><clear/>WE HAVE NO INTERNET CONNECTION GOING. 
<time begin="16"/><clear/>BUT IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING OUT. 
<time begin="18"/><clear/>WE'D LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE TO PLACE THEIR PHONES ON MUTE. 
<time begin="21"/><clear/>AND WE WILL BEGIN. 
<time begin="22"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE WELCOME TO JIM SHROUD FROM THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENT AND HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. 
<time begin="36"/><clear/>I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THIS CONFERENCE. 
<time begin="42"/><clear/>I THINK THIS CONFERENCE IS PARTICULARLY TIMELY NOW BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, EPA JUST POSTED THEIR NEW CONFORMIUM AMENDMENTS. 
<time begin="57"/><clear/>ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
<time begin="61"/><clear/>IT IS ALSO THE. 
<time begin="67"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] 
<time begin="71"/><clear/>ESTABLISHED THE CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="72"/><clear/>THOSE ARE NOT ATTAINMENT AREAS. 
<time begin="85"/><clear/>IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO US. 
<time begin="87"/><clear/>CONFORMITY LAPSE, WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 
<time begin="92"/><clear/>THIS YEAR, EPA WILL BE MAKING THE PM2.5 NONATTAINMENT DESIGNATIONS. 
<time begin="98"/><clear/>THAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN AROUND MID-DECEMBER. 
<time begin="102"/><clear/>AND 30 TO 60 DAYS AFTER THAT POINT, THAT WILL START YET ANOTHER 12-MONTH GRACE PERIOD TO DETERMINE CONFORMITY ON A NEW PM2.5. 
<time begin="114"/><clear/>THERE ARE CERTAINLY THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE CONFORMITY PROCESS NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, PRETTY BUSY TIMEFRAME, AS WE'RE TRANSITIONING INTO A NEW CONFORMITY PROCESS FROM THE EIGHT-HOUR AREAS, 
<time begin="128"/><clear/>TRANSITIONING INTO THE PM2.5 ATTAINMENT AREAS, AT THE SAME TIME TRANSITIONING OUT OF THE PROCESS, MAKING CONFORMITY IN THE ONE-HOUR OZONE NONATTAINMENT AREAS. 
<time begin="142"/><clear/>FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS NET CONFERENCE REALLY IS TO REVIEW ON THE NEW PROVISIONS IN THE NEW CONFORMITY AMENDMENTS AND TO REALLY GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE PROVISIONS AND HOPEFULLY ANSWER AS MANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS WE CAN. 
<time begin="156"/><clear/>AND AT SOME POINT ON THIS NET CONFERENCE WE'LL ALSO BE EXPLAINING ADDITIONAL OUTREACH ACTIVITIES TO HELP EXPLAIN THESE REGULATIONS. 
<time begin="169"/><clear/>THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY EFFORTS TO GO ON TO TRY TO OBTAIN THESE NEW REGULATIONS. 
<time begin="174"/><clear/>WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO GARY. 
<time begin="180"/><clear/>I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD NET CONFERENCE. 
<time begin="182"/><clear/>HELLO, EVERYONE. 
<time begin="183"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, I AM GARY JENSEN WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. 
<time begin="188"/><clear/>I APOLOGIZE FOR OUR DELAY ONCE AGAIN. 
<time begin="191"/><clear/>AND IT APPEARS LIKE THERE ARE STILL SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES. 
<time begin="194"/><clear/>BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR THROUGH YOUR TELEPHONE AND I'D REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE PUT THEIR PHONES ON MUTE. 
<time begin="202"/><clear/>WHAT WE'RE GETTING IS FEEDBACK FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S PHONES. 
<time begin="205"/><clear/>WE APOLOGIZE. 
<time begin="206"/><clear/>WE KNOW THIS ISN'T A PERFECT TECHNOLOGY. 
<time begin="209"/><clear/>BUT THIS WAS BASICALLY THE FASTEST WAY WE COULD GET SOMETHING TOGETHER AND GET OUT FOR YOU ALL. 
<time begin="218"/><clear/>SO BECAUSE OF THE FORMAT, WE WILL ASK EVERYBODY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND TYPE THEM IN THE CHAT BOX ON YOUR SCREEN AND THAT WAY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO YOU. 
<time begin="231"/><clear/>IF WE CAN'T GET TO EVERYBODY TODAY, WE WILL BE PUTTING THEM ON THE NET CONFERENCE. 
<time begin="236"/><clear/>AND THEY WILL ALSO BE POSTED IN OUR NET CONFERENCE. 
<time begin="239"/><clear/>IN ADDITION, THE NET CONFERENCE ITSELF WILL BE RECORDED. 
<time begin="242"/><clear/>BUT AT OUR WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN VIEW IT AT A LATER TIME. 
<time begin="247"/><clear/>OUR AGENDA TODAY IS MAINLY JUST TO GO THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE CONFORMITY RULE AMENDMENT. 
<time begin="253"/><clear/>WE WILL NOT BE COVERING REALLY ANY BASIC CONFORMITY QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="257"/><clear/>WE'LL JUST FOCUS IN ON THE CHANGES THAT ARE OCCURRING BECAUSE OF THE RULE AMENDMENT. 
<time begin="262"/><clear/>SO WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE AMENDMENTS. 
<time begin="266"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE STANDARD AND THE CONFORMING RULE AMENDMENTS THAT DEAL WITH THAT. 
<time begin="272"/><clear/>WE'LL HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. 
<time begin="275"/><clear/>AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BREAK HALFWAY THROUGH. 
<time begin="279"/><clear/>THEN WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH PM2.5 CHANGES, AS WELL AS THE OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE PART OF THIS CONFORMITY RULE BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER CHANGES. 
<time begin="288"/><clear/>WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD AND THEN KIND OF WRAP UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES JIM TALKED ABOUT IN OUR NEXT STEP. 
<time begin="296"/><clear/>FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT BOX ANY TIME DURING THE PRESENTATION. 
<time begin="300"/><clear/>IF WE DON'T ANSWER YOU DURING THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL TRY TO GET TO YOU DURING THE QUESTION-AND-ANSWER PERIOD. 
<time begin="307"/><clear/>THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CONFORMITY RULE AMENDMENTS WERE FIRST TO PROVIDE FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION RULES FOR THE NEW STANDARDS, THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE AND THE PM2.5 STANDARDS. 
<time begin="322"/><clear/>THEY ARE ALSO TO INCORPORATE THE CHANGES, DUE TO THE MARCH 1999 COURT DECISION AND THAT ARE PART OF THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE ACTING UNDER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. 
<time begin="335"/><clear/>AND FINALLY, THE THIRD OBJECTIVE IN THE RULE AMENDMENTS WERE TO PROVIDE STREAMLINING AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONFORMITY PROCESS ITSELF. 
<time begin="344"/><clear/>WE'LL GET TO THOSE LATER ON. 
<time begin="348"/><clear/>WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE, THE RULE THAT WAS RELEASED BY EPA ON JUNE 14th ADDRESSS ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED IN A PROPOSAL JUNE 30th OF 2000. 
<time begin="360"/><clear/>A LOT OF TIMES IT'S CALLED THE COURT DECISION PROPOSAL. 
<time begin="363"/><clear/>IT ALSO ADDRESSES ALL BUT TWO OF THE ISSUES RAISED IN THE NOVEMBER 5th PROPOSAL AND THAT WAS THE NEW PROPOSAL ON THE NEW STANDARDS. 
<time begin="372"/><clear/>THE -- THE CONFORMITY RULE IS ALSO -- FITS IN WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE. 
<time begin="381"/><clear/>AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR PM2.5 AND STRATEGY. 
<time begin="386"/><clear/>THE -- AS I SAID, THE RULE WITHOUT ON JUNE 14th. 
<time begin="390"/><clear/>WE EXPECT TO SEE THE FEDERAL REGISTER PROBABLY AROUND THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY. 
<time begin="396"/><clear/>SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES NOT ADDRESSED IN THIS RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="402"/><clear/>FIRST IS CONSIDERATION 3.5 PRECURSORS. 
<time begin="408"/><clear/>IN REGIONAL ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="410"/><clear/>EPA DECIDED THEY NEEDED TO TAKE MORE COMMENT ON THEIR IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY BEFORE THEY COULD FOR THE CONFORMITY RULE. 
<time begin="418"/><clear/>THE PM2.5 PRECURSOR ISSUES ALSO IMPORTANT FOR OTHER PROGRAMS, INCLUDING RESOURCE REVIEW. 
<time begin="424"/><clear/>AND EPA WANTED TO COLLECT COMMENTS ON THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS. 
<time begin="430"/><clear/>THE OTHER ISSUE THEY'RE NOT FINALIZING THIS IS MAKING PM2.5 IN HOT SPOTS. 
<time begin="437"/><clear/>IN FACT, EPA IS PLANNING ON ISSUING A SUPPLEMENTAL ISSUE IN NOTICE MAKING THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WHICH IS GOING TO ASK FOR MORE COMMENT ON THE HOT SPOT ISSUE, 
<time begin="443"/><clear/>AS WELL AS PRESENT ADDITIONAL OPTIONS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="451"/><clear/>FOR BOTH OF THESE ISSUES, EPA HOPES TO FINALIZE FULL AMENDMENTS BY THE TIME PM2.5 AREAS ARE DESIGNATED, COULD BE EARLY NEXT YEAR. 
<time begin="468"/><clear/>SO FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE STANDARD, THE AREAS WERE DESIGNATED ON APRIL 15th. 
<time begin="476"/><clear/>EFFECTIVE DATES FOR THE MOST PART OF JUNE 15. 
<time begin="480"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS KPEP FOR THOSE -- EXCEPT FOR THOSE AREAS OF THE EARLY EARLY ACTION COMPACT OR WHERE THE EXCEPTION DATE WAS CONFERRED. 
<time begin="491"/><clear/>ALSO THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE FOR THE LAS VEGAS DATE, WHERE THE EFFECTIVE DATE HAS BEEN DEFERRED UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 
<time begin="497"/><clear/>SO FOR MOST AREAS FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE IT'S GOING TO APPLY ON JUNE 15 2005. 
<time begin="507"/><clear/>AT THE SAME TIME, THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD WILL BE REVOKED. 
<time begin="511"/><clear/>SO THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD WILL BE REVOKED ONE YEAR AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF DESIGNATION FOR MOST AREAS, EFFECTIVE 2005. 
<time begin="520"/><clear/>CONFORMITY FOR THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD WILL NO LONGER APPLY AT THAT POINT FOR THOSE FEW ONE-HOUR MAINTENANCE AREAS THAT ARE ALSO EIGHT-HOUR EARLY ACTION COMPACT AREAS. 
<time begin="531"/><clear/>ONLY THREE OF THEM. 
<time begin="533"/><clear/>ASHCROFT, GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA, AND DENVER, COLORADO. 
<time begin="540"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] ONE-HOUR STANDARD. 
<time begin="543"/><clear/>APPLICATION OF THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARD TO ENSURE THAT CONFORMITY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED AT THE SAME TIME. 
<time begin="554"/><clear/>THE FINAL RULE DOES NOT CHANGE ANY OF THE ONE-HOUR CONFORMITY REACH REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="558"/><clear/>DURING THE GRACE PERIOD, DURING THIS ONE-YEAR PERIOD PRIOR TO JUNE 15, 2000, AGAINST THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD RULE APPLIED WILL STILL APPLY IN ONE-HOUR NONATTAINMENT MAINTENANCE AREAS. 
<time begin="574"/><clear/>IN OTHER WORDS, ANY NEW PLANS OR PROJECT APPROVALS HAVE TO BE CONFORMED AGAINST THE PROJECT STANDARD AT THAT TIME. 
<time begin="582"/><clear/>AND THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY IN THE EXISTING STANDARDS. 
<time begin="589"/><clear/>EARLY ACTION CONTACT AREAS, EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED. 
<time begin="597"/><clear/>THE EIGHT-HOUR DESTINATION WAS DEFERRED. 
<time begin="600"/><clear/>THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE AN EFFECTIVE EIGHT-HOUR NONATTAINMENT DESIGNATION. 
<time begin="604"/><clear/>THEREFORE, THESE AREAS WILL NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY REQUIREMENTS IN THIS RULE UNLESS THE AREA MISSES A MILESTONE AND THE NONATTAINMENT DESIGNATION IS NOT DONE. 
<time begin="619"/><clear/>HOWEVER,. 
<time begin="621"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] FOR THOSE AREAS, WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH THE ONE-HOUR CONFORMMENTS UNTIL WE ATTAIN THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARD OR THEY MISS ONE OF THEIR EAP MILESTONES. 
<time begin="635"/><clear/>THIS COULD BE -- EAC MILESTONES. 
<time begin="639"/><clear/>THIS COULD BE AS LATE AS 2005. 
<time begin="642"/><clear/>PM2.5 STANDARD, EPA PLANS ON DESIGNATING THOSE AREAS LATE THIS YEAR. 
<time begin="649"/><clear/>EFFECTIVE DATES IN EARLY 20 VERY 5. 
<time begin="653"/><clear/>-- 2005. 
<time begin="655"/><clear/>UNDER THE CLEAN-AIR ACT, IT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CLEAN AIR STANDARD EARLY 2006. 
<time begin="662"/><clear/>IT CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE BROADER IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AND HOPES TO HAVE A PROPOSAL OUT LATER THIS SUMMER. 
<time begin="671"/><clear/>THAT PROPOSAL WILL ADDRESS REQUIREMENTS, OTHER PM2.5 REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="685"/><clear/>SO ONCE AGAIN, FOR NEW NONATAINMENT AREAS, THEY WILL HAVE A ONE-YEAR DATE FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE TO REQUIRE. 
<time begin="694"/><clear/>FOR THAT ONE YEAR CONFORMING THAT MUST BE IN PLACE. 
<time begin="698"/><clear/>THAT WILL BE TO THE CONFORMITY FREQUENCY REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="701"/><clear/>IN OTHER WORDS, FOR EIGHT-HOUR OZONE AREAS, BY JUNE 15, 2005, METROPOLITAN AREAS WILL HAVE TO MAKE A CONFORMITY DETERMINATION FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARDS AND TIPS. 
<time begin="715"/><clear/>AND NEW AREAS THAT WILL START AT THE 3-YEAR CONFORMITY CLOCK. 
<time begin="724"/><clear/>SO WHEN IT'S FIRST CONFORMITY DETERMINATION REQUIRED. 
<time begin="727"/><clear/>LIKE I SAID, FOR METROPOLITAN AREAS, REQUIRED BY THE END OF THE ONE-YEAR GRACE PERIOD. 
<time begin="735"/><clear/>IF THE T.I.P. CONFORMITY IS NOT DETERMINED AT AT THAT TIME. 
<time begin="741"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] FOR AREAS SUBJECT TO THE FREQUENCY REQUIREMENT OF PLANS AND TIPS. 
<time begin="748"/><clear/>SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE CONFORMITY DETERMINATION AGAINST THE NEW STANDARD. 
<time begin="755"/><clear/>FIRST PROJECT APPROVAL. 
<time begin="756"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO SEEK CONFORMITY PRIOR TO -- AFTER JUNE 15. 
<time begin="768"/><clear/>ONE THING TO NOTE, CONFORMITY DETERMINATIONS CAN BE MADE LAST. 
<time begin="774"/><clear/>EXCUSE ME. 
<time begin="776"/><clear/>DURING THE -- . 
<time begin="789"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] 
<time begin="791"/><clear/>AGAIN, EVERYBODY, ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE PUT YOUR PHONES ON MUTE. 
<time begin="795"/><clear/>WE CAN HEAR A LOT OF OTHER TALKING AND A LOT OF FEEDBACK. 
<time begin="799"/><clear/>I'M ASKING ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE PUT YOUR PHONES ON MUTE. 
<time begin="813"/><clear/>WE'RE STILL HEARING A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
<time begin="814"/><clear/>PLEASE. 
<time begin="816"/><clear/>ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE PUT YOUR PHONES ON MUTE. 
<time begin="823"/><clear/>SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TESTS. 
<time begin="827"/><clear/>THESE ARE THE TESTS THAT HAVE TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO ADEQUATE OR APPROVED SIP BUDGETS IN PLACE. 
<time begin="833"/><clear/>THESE ARE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE BASELINE YEAR TEST MOBILE TESTS. 
<time begin="839"/><clear/>FINAL RULE CHANGES THE BASELINE YEAR FROM 1990 TO 2002 FOR THE NEW STANDARDS FOR PM2.5, EIGHT-HOUR OZONE AREAS. 
<time begin="848"/><clear/>1990 WILL REMAIN THE BASE YEAR FOR EXISTING ONE-HOUR AREAS, AS WELL AS CARBON MONOXIDE IN PM10 AREAS. 
<time begin="859"/><clear/>MAKING CHANGES TO BUILD/NO-BUILD TESTS, CHANGE IT TO BUILD-NO BUILD TESTS. 
<time begin="867"/><clear/>AND WAIVES THE TESTS ALTOGETHER FOR CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THE BUILD AND NO-BUILD SCENARIOS ARE THE SAME. 
<time begin="873"/><clear/>THIS WILL PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO AREAS OF LOWER CLASSIFICATION, IN AREAS WITH FEWER CLEAN AIR ACT REQUIREMENTS AND WILL ELIMINATE ANALYSIS THAT IS UNNECESSARY WHEN THE SCENARIOS ARE THE SAME. 
<time begin="888"/><clear/>THE BUILD/NO-BUILD TEST WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING. 
<time begin="891"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] THAT COULD NOT BE EQUALED. 
<time begin="896"/><clear/>ROBLE THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THE RULE MAKING IS WHAT TESTS DO PEOPLE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. 
<time begin="904"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS HERE. 
<time begin="907"/><clear/>BUT THE FIRST SITUATION WOULD BE EIGHT-HOUR AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE ONE-HOUR SIP BUDGETS. 
<time begin="913"/><clear/>MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ADEQUATE OR APPROVED ONE-HOUR SIP IN PLACE FOR ANY PART OF THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="921"/><clear/>IN THIS CASE, THE FINAL RULE IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE ONE-HOUR REQUIREMENT. 
<time begin="927"/><clear/>MARGINAL AND SUBPART ONE ARE BASIC AREAS THAT CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO TESTS, EITHER A BUILD BELL EQUAL OR LESS THAN THE NO-BUILD. 
<time begin="938"/><clear/>OR A GREATER -- NO-GREATER-THAN-2002 TEST. 
<time begin="942"/><clear/>AS WITH MODERATE AND ABOVE AREAS, WILL HAVE TO COMPLETE BOTH TESTS. 
<time begin="947"/><clear/>THAT'S THE LESS THAN FOUR-MONTH TEST. 
<time begin="949"/><clear/>BUILDS HAVE TO BE LESS THAN THE NO-BUILDS AND THE BUILDS HAVE TO BE LESS THAN 2002. 
<time begin="954"/><clear/>THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE MODERN ABOVE AREAS UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT EMISSION ACTIVITIES MUST CONTRIBUTE TO ANNUAL REDUCTION AREAS. 
<time begin="963"/><clear/>THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL PROVISION THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. 
<time begin="968"/><clear/>AND THAT'S WHY THOSE AREAS HAVE TO MEET BOTH TESTS. 
<time begin="973"/><clear/>FOR ALL EIGHT-HOUR AREAS, USING INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST, THE REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS IS ALWAYS DONE FOR VOCs, ALSO DONE FOR NOx UNLESS THE NOx WAIVER IS ISSUED. 
<time begin="987"/><clear/>BUT PLEASE NOTE IT MUST BE WAIVED FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARD. 
<time begin="992"/><clear/>IF YOU HAVE A NOx WAIVER FOR THE ONE-HOUR, IT DOES NOT APPLY. 
<time begin="996"/><clear/>YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A NEW WAIVER. 
<time begin="998"/><clear/>OTHERWISE YOU'LL HAVE TO DO CONFORMILITY FOR BOTH DOC AND NOx. 
<time begin="1013"/><clear/>FOR AREAS WITH ONE-HOUR, THE FINAL RULE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PROPOSAL PUT FORTH IN A MENU COULD CHOOSE FROM. 
<time begin="1022"/><clear/>BASED ON COMMENTS THAT AREAS RECEIVED THAT EPA RECEIVED FROM A NUMBER OF GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT. 
<time begin="1031"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] ONE-HOUR SIP BUDGETS WILL NEED TO BE USED FOR EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY BUT EIGHT-HOUR SIPS ARE IN, UNLESS ANOTHER TEST IS DEEMED MORE APPROPRIATE. 
<time begin="1043"/><clear/>AND WE'LL GET TO WHAT WE MEAN BY WHAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE. 
<time begin="1046"/><clear/>IF YOU HAVE AN ADEQUATE OR APPROVED ONE-HOUR SIP BUDGET IN PLACE THAT YOU ARE USING FOR CONFORMITY, YOU WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TO USE THAT BUDGET FOR EIGHT-HOUR IN MOST CASES. 
<time begin="1059"/><clear/>HOW THIS WILL APPLY IN THE RULE BASICALLY DIVIDED INTO FOUR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. 
<time begin="1070"/><clear/>SCENARIO ONE IS THE CASE WHERE YOUR ONE-HOUR, NONATTAINMENT MAINTENANCE AREA IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOUR ATTAINMENT IS. 
<time begin="1082"/><clear/>SCENARIO TWO IS THE SITUATION WHERE YOUR ONE-HOUR AREA IS LARGER THAN YOUR EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1090"/><clear/>OUR THE EIGHT-HOUR COVERS A SMALLER GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. 
<time begin="1095"/><clear/>SCENARIO THREE IS WHERE IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER. 
<time begin="1099"/><clear/>IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ENTIRE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1103"/><clear/>AND FINALLY, SCENARIO 4, THE SITUATION WHERE YOUR ONE-HOUR AREA AND YOUR EIGHT-HOUR AREAS OVERLAP AND DON'T INCLUDE EITHER IN THE ENTIRETY. 
<time begin="1113"/><clear/>WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME AREAS, YOU MAY HAVE A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT WHICH UMBRELLA YOU SIT UNDER BECAUSE THERE ARE FAIRLY COMPLEX AREAS OUT THERE. 
<time begin="1123"/><clear/>WE REALIZE THAT. 
<time begin="1125"/><clear/>AND EPA IS GOING TO BE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO HELP THOSE AREAS UNDERSTAND HOW CONFORMITY WILL APPLY IN THESE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL AREAS. 
<time begin="1137"/><clear/>WE'LL COVER THAT LATER. 
<time begin="1139"/><clear/>BUT TODAY I'M GOING TO COVER THE BASIC SCENARIOS THAT WILL ARE COVERED IN THE RULE. 
<time begin="1144"/><clear/>SCENARIO ONE, THIS IS THE SIMPLEST AREA, YOUR ONE-HOUR NONATTAINMENT BOUNDARY IS THE SAME AS YOUR EIGHT-HOUR NONATTAINMENT BOUNDARY. 
<time begin="1155"/><clear/>IN THESE CASES, YOU WOULD USE YOUR ONE-HOUR BUDGET AS IS. 
<time begin="1158"/><clear/>YOU WOULD CONTINUE CONFORMITY AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. 
<time begin="1161"/><clear/>AND YOU WOULD MEET THOSE UNTIL YOU HAVE ASSETS OR APPROVED EIGHT-HOUR BUDGETS IN PLACE. 
<time begin="1168"/><clear/>FOR SCENARIO 2 AREAS, THIS IS WHERE THE ONE-HOUR AREAS LARGER THAN THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1181"/><clear/>THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. 
<time begin="1183"/><clear/>FIRST YOU CAN DO CONFORMITY USING THE ENTIRE AREA USING THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET. 
<time begin="1188"/><clear/>OR IF POSSIBLE, YOU CAN FORM AGAINST THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1192"/><clear/>BUT THE PORTION IS AGAINST THE ONE-HOUR THAT'S APPLICABLE. 
<time begin="1195"/><clear/>THAT'S IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THAT APPLICABLE PORTION. 
<time begin="1198"/><clear/>THIS MAY BE THE CASE WHERE YOU HAVE A NONATTAINMENT AREA THAT HAS THREE OR FOUR COUNTIES IN THE INVENTORY OF YOUR SIP WAS DEVELOPED ON A COUNTY BASIS. 
<time begin="1207"/><clear/>AND THAT CASE, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEPARATE OUT THE BUDGET THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE SMALLER AREA. 
<time begin="1214"/><clear/>THAT CANNOT BE DONE, THEN YOU CAN USE CONFORMITY AGAINST THE ENTIRE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1220"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IN CONFORMITY IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL REDUCTION TO PASS THE TEST, THOSE REDUCTIONS WILL HAVE TO COME FROM THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1231"/><clear/>SCENARIO 3, ONCE AGAIN IS THE CASE WHERE THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA IS LARGER THAN THE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1240"/><clear/>THESE WILL STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE TO USE THE ONE-HOUR SIP AND MEET THEIR BUDGETS IN THE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1246"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IN ADDITION TO MEETING THE BUDGET'S TESTS, THESE AREAS WILL ALSO HAVE TO COMPLETE THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TESTS. 
<time begin="1254"/><clear/>AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR COMPLETING THE EMISSIONS TEST. 
<time begin="1257"/><clear/>THEY CAN COMPLETE THEM FOR THE ENTIRE EIGHT-HOUR AREA, INCLUDING THE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1265"/><clear/>THEY CAN DO THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST JUST FOR THE PORTION THAT'S NOT COVERED IN THE ONE-HOUR SIP. 
<time begin="1272"/><clear/>ER OR IN CASES OF MULTISTATE AREAS, THERE'S SOME CASES OF FLEXIBILITY INVOLVED AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TESTS JUST FOR THE PORTION OF THE NONATTAINMENT AREA IN YOUR STATE. 
<time begin="1284"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, THIS WILL BE COVERED IN FURTHER GUIDANCE THAT EPA EXPECTS SOON. 
<time begin="1291"/><clear/>AND FINALLY, THE LAST SCENARIO IS WHERE THE THINGS MATCH AND DO NOT OVERLAP. 
<time begin="1298"/><clear/>IN THESE CASES, AREAS WILL USE THAT PORTION OF THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY FOR THE ONE-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1304"/><clear/>IN ADDITION, AS IN THE SCENARIO 3 AREAS, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST TO COVER THE PART OF THE AREA THAT'S NOT COVERED BY A BUDGET. 
<time begin="1313"/><clear/>AND ONCE AGAIN, THEY'LL HAVE OPTIONS THEY CAN USE. 
<time begin="1315"/><clear/>THEY CAN DO THIS TEST JUST FOR THE REMAINDER. 
<time begin="1318"/><clear/>OR THEY CAN DO IT FOR THE ENTIRE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1321"/><clear/>OR IF THEY HAVE A MULTISTATE AREA, THERE IS FLEXIBILITY INVOLVED FOR ONLY DOING THE EMISSIONS TEST FOR THE PORTION OF THE NONATTAINMENT AREA IN THE STATE. 
<time begin="1330"/><clear/>IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY THE PORTION OF THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET THAT'S APPLICABLE IN THE AREA, INTERIM EMISSIONS TESTS WOULD NEED TO BE DEMONSTRATED FOR THE ENTIRE EIGHT-HOUR AREA. 
<time begin="1348"/><clear/>SO IN GENERAL, THE PRIMARY PRINCIPAL IS IF YOU HAVE A ONE-HOUR BUDGET THAT'S ADEQUATE OR APPROVED, YOU'LL NEED TO USE THAT BUDGET WHEN DETERMINING EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="1358"/><clear/>THIS IS IN CASES WHERE THEY EXIST, WHERE THE BOUNDARY SCENARIOS ALLOW IT, AND THE REASON IS THAT EPA BELIEVES THAT AFTER OBTAINING COMMENTS THAT THESE BUDGETS ARE THE MOST LIKELY WAY TO ENSURE THAT AIR QUALITY PROGRESS IS MAINTAINED. 
<time begin="1375"/><clear/>AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY BEING USED IN ONE HOFF HOUR CONFORMITY -- ONE-HOUR CONFORMITY DETERMINATIONS. 
<time begin="1383"/><clear/>BEFORE THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST, FOR AREAS THAT HAVE EIGHT-HOUR SIPS, FOR THOSE PORTIONS, THEY'RE NOT COVERED BY ONE-HOUR BUDGET, WHERE BOUNDARY CHANGES MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE WHAT PART OF THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET APPLIES. 
<time begin="1399"/><clear/>AND WHEN IT'S DETERMINED THROUGH INTERAGENCY CONSULTATION THAT SUCH TESTS BETTER MEET CLEAN AIR ACT REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="1407"/><clear/>THIS GETS TO THE POINT OF WHEN A ONE-HOUR SIP BUDGET MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE. 
<time begin="1413"/><clear/>AND THE PRIMARY CRITERIA FOR WHETHER A ONE-HOUR SIP BUDGET IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT IS WHETHER IT MEETS THE CLEAN AIR ACT. 
<time begin="1427"/><clear/>THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET CANNOT BE DEEMED INAPPROPRIATE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON OLDER DAT ON -- DATA OR IT'S DIFFICULT TO PASS. 
<time begin="1437"/><clear/>CONSULTATION PROCESS MUST BE USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN THE ONE-HOUR BUDGET. 
<time begin="1446"/><clear/>BUT IT IS EXPECTED THAT WILL OCCUR IN ONLY LIMITED CASES. 
<time begin="1454"/><clear/>ANOTHER ELEMENT OF CONFORMITY, DETERMINES OF COURSE, IS DEMONSTRATIONS OF TIMELY TCMs. 
<time begin="1462"/><clear/>THE ONE AREA THAT HAS COME UP IS DO YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE TIMELY IMPLEMENTATION OF TCMs IN YOUR ONE-HOUR SIP? 
<time begin="1471"/><clear/>CONFORMITY NEEDS TO SHOW CONFORMITY IN ALL TCMs OF ALL SIPS,INE OLDER SIPs. 
<time begin="1481"/><clear/>WILL HAVE TO BE SHOWN FOR THEM IN EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY DETERMINATIONS, EVEN AFTER THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD IS REVICATED. 
<time begin="1489"/><clear/>SO EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY WILL HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE TIMELY CONFORMATION OF ANY APPROVED TCMs THAT ARE IN ONE-HOUR SIPS. 
<time begin="1502"/><clear/>NOW, ONCE AN AREA HAS EIGHT-HOUR OR PM2.5 BUDGETS IN PLACE, THEY WILL USE THOSE BUDGETS. 
<time begin="1510"/><clear/>THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TESTS OR ONE-HOUR BUDGET WILL NO LONGER BE USED FOR THAT POLLUTANT. 
<time begin="1516"/><clear/>SO YOU'LL ONLY BE USING YOUR ONE-HOUR BUDGETS UNTIL YOU HAVE EIGHT-HOUR BUDGETS IN PRASE. 
<time begin="1521"/><clear/>-- PLACE. 
<time begin="1524"/><clear/>NOW, I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THAT FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
<time begin="1526"/><clear/>THAT'S A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE PORTION OF THIS SLIDE. 
<time begin="1532"/><clear/>I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. 
<time begin="1534"/><clear/>BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TYPE IN YOUR QUESTIONS NOW INTO THE CHAT BOX AND WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. 
<time begin="1540"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HAVE IT -- HAD TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION, THE SOUND. 
<time begin="1547"/><clear/>AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 
<time begin="1548"/><clear/>WE KNOW THIS IS NOT AN IDEAL TECHNOLOGY. 
<time begin="1550"/><clear/>BUT IT WAS THE FASTEST WAY WE COULD GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO YOU. 
<time begin="1555"/><clear/>THE SLIDES WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE. 
<time begin="1559"/><clear/>WE'VE SUPPLIED THEM TO AMPOE. 
<time begin="1561"/><clear/>BUT THEY'LL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB PAGE IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS ALONG WITH THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION RECORDED. 
<time begin="1569"/><clear/>SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE SLIDES. 
<time begin="1573"/><clear/>IF SOONER, YOU CAN CONTACT MYSELF OR AMPO, AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THEM TO YOU SOONER. 
<time begin="1584"/><clear/>NEXT QUESTION I SEE IS WHEN DO EIGHT-HOUR ZIPs HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY? 
<time begin="1590"/><clear/>-- SIPs HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY. 
<time begin="1592"/><clear/>THIS WAS REALLY PART OF THE EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="1596"/><clear/>AND IN MOST CASES, THE EIGHT-HOUR RULES WERE THREE YEARS AFTER DESIGNATION. 
<time begin="1602"/><clear/>BUT I'D REFER EVERYONE TO THE EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN RULE MAKING TO THOSE QUESTIONS OR WITH EPA, AS THAT'S REALLY NOT THE PROVINS OF OUR AGENCY. 
<time begin="1616"/><clear/>WHEN WE SENT OUT THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO THIS, I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S APPLIED A WEBSITE TO YOU SO YOU KNOW YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. 
<time begin="1629"/><clear/>ACTUALLY, THE PRIMARRY CRITER -- PRIMARY CRITERIA, WHETHER THEY MAKE THE AIR QUALITY BETTER OR DO NO HARM. 
<time begin="1637"/><clear/>BEING ABLE TO USE THE INTERIM TESTS INSTEAD OF THE ONE-HOUR TEST IS THAT IT HAS TO BETTER MEET THE CLEAN AIR ACT REQUIREMENT THAT PLANS AND TIPs DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY WILL NOT CAUSE VIOLATIONS OR WORSEN VIOLATIONS. 
<time begin="1654"/><clear/>SO IT REALLY HAS TO DO -- YOU REALLY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE INTERIM TESTS DO A BETTER JOB OF SHOWING THAT YOUR TRANSPORTATION -- TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND TIPs WILL HAVE TO DO LESS HARM FOR AIR QUALITY. 
<time begin="1673"/><clear/>NAAQS WAIVERS. 
<time begin="1678"/><clear/>IMPLEMENTATION PLANS ALLOW ON EIGHT-HOUR NAAQS WAIVERS. 
<time begin="1688"/><clear/>THIS ALLOWS EPA TO WAIVER NAAQS REQUIREMENTS . 
<time begin="1698"/><clear/>A NUMBER DID THIS UNDER THE ONE-HOUR STANDARDS AND HAVE WAIVERS. 
<time begin="1702"/><clear/>HOWEVER, THOSE ONE-HOUR WAIVERS WILL WILL NOT APPLY. 
<time begin="1707"/><clear/>SO UNLESS THEY HAVE EIGHT-HOUR WAIVERS, THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW COMPLIANCE WITH NAAQS IN THE CONFORMITY DETERMINATION. 
<time begin="1716"/><clear/>THE ADDITIONAL RULES FOR BISTATES AND BIMFOs BE RELEASED. 
<time begin="1723"/><clear/>FICTIONAL GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE, WORKING ON WITH EPA, WE HOPE TO RELEASE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. 
<time begin="1728"/><clear/>THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLICATED ISSUES THAT WE KNOW. 
<time begin="1731"/><clear/>AND WE'RE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. 
<time begin="1735"/><clear/>OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT GUIDANCE OUT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. 
<time begin="1738"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL BE GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="1740"/><clear/>IT'S NOT A RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="1741"/><clear/>IT'S JUST GUIDANCE INTERPRETING THESE RULES. 
<time begin="1747"/><clear/>I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, WHAT IS 93.109. 
<time begin="1753"/><clear/>I THINK SOMEBODY ANSWERED THAT IN THE CHAT BOX. 
<time begin="1756"/><clear/>BUT I'LL REPEAT. 
<time begin="1758"/><clear/>REFERS TO 40 CFR, PART 93, SECTION 109, WHICH IS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY RULE. 
<time begin="1767"/><clear/>WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
<time begin="1771"/><clear/>WE'LL GO AHEAD AND -- WELL, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. 
<time begin="1775"/><clear/>IN A ONE-HOUR BUDGET FOR A MAINTENANCE PLAN YEAR 2014 BE USED FOR AN ATTAINMENT YEAR OF 2010. 
<time begin="1784"/><clear/>NO. 
<time begin="1786"/><clear/>FOR THE BUDGET TEST, THE SAME RULES THAT APPLY WOULD APPLY NOW. 
<time begin="1790"/><clear/>YOU HAVE TO USE THE BUDGET THAT'S THE MOST RECENT PREVIOUS BUDGET. 
<time begin="1794"/><clear/>SO FOR 2010, YOU COULD NOT USE A 2014 BUDGET. 
<time begin="1798"/><clear/>YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE MOST RECENT YEAR THAT WAS PREVIOUS TO 2010 THAT YOU HAD A BUDGET AVAILABLE. 
<time begin="1805"/><clear/>OR IF THERE'S NO BUDGET AVAILABLE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST. 
<time begin="1812"/><clear/>WHAT ELSE IS THE GUIDANCE GOING TO TEST? 
<time begin="1816"/><clear/>MULTIJURISDICTIONAL GUIDANCE IS GOING TO ADDRESS AREAS WITH MULTIPLE MPOs AND/OR MULTIPLE STATES. 
<time begin="1823"/><clear/>SO IT'S GOING TO BASICALLY ADDRESS PROCEDURAL ISSUES SUCH AS HOW AREAS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET PROPERLY -- CONFORMITY DEMONSTRATED IN THE NONAFEIGNMENT AREAS, 
<time begin="1832"/><clear/>AS WELL AS SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, AS FAR AS HOW THE BUDGET TESTS CAN BE USED WITH AREAS WITH SUBAREA BUDGETS OR SEPARATE BUDGETS IN EACH MULTISTATE. 
<time begin="1847"/><clear/>WILL THE DETAILS OF THE COURT IMPACT BE ADDRESSED? 
<time begin="1850"/><clear/>WE'LL COVER THAT INFORMATION THE SECOND HALF OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY. 
<time begin="1854"/><clear/>BUT ONLY BRIEFLY. 
<time begin="1855"/><clear/>I CAN SUM UP RIGHT NOW IN SAYING THAT BASICALLY, FOR THE COURTS -- 1999 COURT DECISION, ALL THE RULE DOES IS INCORPORATE THE EXISTING GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE INTO THE RULE. 
<time begin="1869"/><clear/>THERE ARE NO CHANGES REALLY TO WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING NOW. 
<time begin="1876"/><clear/>SO WE KNOW IT'S THE WILMINGTON PLANNING COUNCIL AREA. 
<time begin="1883"/><clear/>THE QUESTION IS, IF AN AREA HAS NO CURRENT ONE-HOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN AND DESIGNATED ATTAINMENT OF THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARD, MAINTENANCE PLAN, THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE HERE. 
<time begin="1900"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] COUNTY IMPLEMENTATION. 
<time begin="1903"/><clear/>MAINTENANCE. 
<time begin="1906"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE MAINTENANCE AREA HAS A MAINTENANCE PLAN UNDER SECTION 175. 
<time begin="1916"/><clear/>SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE. 
<time begin="1919"/><clear/>AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT SHOWS 10 YEARS. 
<time begin="1926"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] ISSUES HAVING TO DEAL WITH MAINTENANCE. 
<time begin="1929"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] REFER THIS QUESTION TO IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LINK WHEN WE SEND OUT THE QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="1940"/><clear/>WHAT METHODS CAN BE USED TO DIVIDE A SUBJECT. 
<time begin="1953"/><clear/>IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYBODY AT THE WILMINGTON AREA PLANNING COUNCIL AND CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
<time begin="1965"/><clear/>THE METHOD, YOU COULD USE DIFFERENT THINGS TO DETERMINE HOW SUBDIVIDED ONE-HOUR BUDGET. 
<time begin="1971"/><clear/>EASIEST WAYS TO DO THAT WOULD BE IF THE BUDGET SOMEHOW IN THE INVENTORY SUBDIVIDED THE INVENTORY. 
<time begin="1979"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SUBDIVIDED IN A PREVIOUS PLAN. 
<time begin="1983"/><clear/>IT JUST HAS TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH INTERAGENCY CONSULTATION. 
<time begin="1988"/><clear/>SO THERE MAY BE WAYS THAT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THAT COULD BE UTILIZED, DEPENDING HOW YOUR SIP WAS DEVELOPED. 
<time begin="1999"/><clear/>IF THERE IS AN EIGHT-HOUR MAINSZ PLAN, COULD IT BE USED FOR THE 2009 FOR THE EIGHT-HOUR? 
<time begin="2007"/><clear/>IF IT IS PRIOR TO 2009, IT COULD BE USED. 
<time begin="2010"/><clear/>SO IF YOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN BUDGET IS, LET'S SAY, 2005, YOU COULD USE IT FOR THE 2009 ATTAINMENT YEAR. 
<time begin="2019"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IF IT IS AFTER 2009, SUCH AS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS EARLIER, 2014 MAINTENANCE PLAN, YOU COULD NOT USE THAT BUDGET FOR A PRIOR YEAR. 
<time begin="2030"/><clear/>EACH YEAR YOU TEST, YOU NEED TO UTILIZE THE MOST -- THE MOST PRIOR BUDGET TO THAT YEAR. 
<time begin="2043"/><clear/>OKAY. 
<time begin="2045"/><clear/>THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REPEAT OUR ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, IF AN AREA HAS NO CURRENT ONE-HOUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM WAS DESIGNATED TO THE EIGHT-HOUR, WILL IT NEED A MAINTENANCE PLAN? 
<time begin="2057"/><clear/>WHAT I ANSWERED THERE, WAS IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU MEAN BY MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
<time begin="2062"/><clear/>NORMALLY, IN CONFORMITY, WE REFER TO ONE SECTION, 175 MAINTENANCE PLANS . 
<time begin="2068"/><clear/>THOSE ARE THE ONLY SUBJECT TO CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="2070"/><clear/>HOWEVER, THE EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION RULE REFERS TO A SECTION 110 MAINTENANCE PLAN, WHICH IS DIFFERENT ALTOGETHER. 
<time begin="2076"/><clear/>SO I'D REFER YOU TO THE EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION RULE AND EPA FOR MORE GUIDANCE ON HOW THAT MAINTENANCE PLAN WOULD WORK. 
<time begin="2095"/><clear/>IS THERE A ONE-HOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN BUDGET, WILL THE 2002 BASELINE DATA APPLY? 
<time begin="2105"/><clear/>WHETHER YOU'RE ABLE TO USE YOUR ONE HOFF HOUR MAINTENANCE -- ONE-HOUR MAINTENANCE TO CONFER CAN CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="2115"/><clear/>IF YOU'RE IN AN AREA WHERE YOUR BUDGET COVERS YOUR ENTIRE EIGHT-HOUR AREA, YOU WOULD JUST DO THE BUDGET TEST, NOT THE INTERIM TEST. 
<time begin="2122"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE NEW AREA, YOUR EIGHT-HOUR AREA IS LARGER THAN YOUR ONE-HOUR AREA, OR YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET APPLIES TO THE AREA. 
<time begin="2133"/><clear/>OR IF YOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN IS AFTER A REQUIRED ANALYSIS THIS YEAR, YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO DO THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST. 
<time begin="2139"/><clear/>IN THAT CASE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THE -- YOU MAY NEED TO DO THE 2002 BASELINE TEST. 
<time begin="2145"/><clear/>NEXT QUESTION? 
<time begin="2147"/><clear/>IF THERE'S NO ONE-HOUR BUDGET PRIOR TO 2009, THE EIGHT-OUR ATTAINMENT YEAR, WHAT TESTS APPLY? 
<time begin="2154"/><clear/>THERE'S NO ONE-HOUR BUDGET AVAILABLE, THEN THE INTERIM EMISSIONS TEST WOULD APPLY. 
<time begin="2160"/><clear/>DEPENDS ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF YOUR AREA. 
<time begin="2162"/><clear/>IF YOU'RE CLASSIFIED A MARGINAL AREA OR SUBPART ONE OR BASIC AREA, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO EITHER THE BUILD NO GREATER THAN NO BUILD TEST. 
<time begin="2178"/><clear/>OR BUILD NO-GREATER-THAN-2002 TEST. 
<time begin="2180"/><clear/>HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE CLASSIFIED AS A MODERATE OR ABOVE EIGHT-HOUR OZONE AREA, YOU'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH BOTH THE BUILD LESS THAN NO BUILD TEST AND THE BUILD LESS THAN 2002 TEST. 
<time begin="2192"/><clear/>SO IT DEPENDS ON YOUR CLASSIFICATION. 
<time begin="2198"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FLIP BACK TO THE FOUR BOUNDARY SCENARIOS AND SHOW THAT SLIDE. 
<time begin="2205"/><clear/>QUESTION IS, SO THE FINAL RULE IS DISTINCT FROM EPA'S EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION RULE. 
<time begin="2210"/><clear/>THAT IS CORRECT. 
<time begin="2211"/><clear/>THIS IS A DIFFERENT RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="2214"/><clear/>EPA'S IMPLEMENTATION RULE WAS OUT EARLIER. 
<time begin="2217"/><clear/>AND I'LL MAKE SURE I GET YOU THAT LINK. 
<time begin="2219"/><clear/>BUT THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE RULE MAKINGS. 
<time begin="2221"/><clear/>NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THE AREA WITHOUT A BUDGET IS IN ANOTHER STATE? 
<time begin="2227"/><clear/>NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY. 
<time begin="2229"/><clear/>BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT. 
<time begin="2235"/><clear/>WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD WOULD HAPPEN. 
<time begin="2238"/><clear/>THAT WOULD BE IN THE CASE WHERE THE EIGHT-HOUR AREA IS LARGER THAN THE ONE-HOUR AREA, BUT THE NEW AREA INCLUDES ANOTHER STATE. 
<time begin="2245"/><clear/>IN THAT CASE, THAT SITUATION WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE GUIDANCE WE HOPE TO HAVE OUT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. 
<time begin="2251"/><clear/>GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUR BREAK NOW. 
<time begin="2255"/><clear/>WE'LL TAKE A 10-MINUTE BREAK. 
<time begin="2257"/><clear/>AND START UP AGAIN AT 4:00 -- EXCUSE ME. 
<time begin="2261"/><clear/>3:00, EASTERN TIME. 
<time begin="2263"/><clear/>AND WE'LL MOVE ON WITH PM2.5 AND ALSO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
<time begin="2268"/><clear/>SOMEONE JUST RECENTLY PUT UP THE EIGHT-HOUR IMPLEMENTATION WEBSITE IN THE BOX. 
<time begin="2273"/><clear/>AND THAT'S GREAT. 
<time begin="2274"/><clear/>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
<time begin="2275"/><clear/>THANK YOU. 
<time begin="2277"/><clear/>AND WE WILL BE BACK IN 10 MINUTES. 
<time begin="2870"/><clear/>HELLO, EVERYBODY. 
<time begin="2872"/><clear/>THIS IS GARY JENSEN ONCE AGAIN. 
<time begin="2875"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. 
<time begin="2877"/><clear/>WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS COME IN. 
<time begin="2881"/><clear/>IN NUMBER 3, THE DOUGHNUT AREA, AFFECTS THE EMISSIONS TEST, WILL THIS AFFECT THE AREA THAT IS PAST THE MOTOR VEHICLE BUDGET TEST FOR THE NEW EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY REQUIREMENTS? 
<time begin="2893"/><clear/>IF YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT IS ENTIRELY IN ONE STATE AND THE DOUGHNUT AREA FAILS AN INTERMISSIONS TEST, CONFORMITY WILL FAIL FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. 
<time begin="2907"/><clear/>EVEN IF THE ONE HOFF HOUR -- ONE-HOUR AREA CAN MEET ITS TEST, THE ADDITIONAL EIGHT-HOUR AREA MUST MEET ITS TEST AS WELL. 
<time begin="2916"/><clear/>THERE IS AN "AND" PROVISION IN THE REGULATION. 
<time begin="2919"/><clear/>THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE IN A MULTISTATE AREA, THERE CAN BE SOME FLEXIBILITY. 
<time begin="2927"/><clear/>AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL. 
<time begin="2930"/><clear/>THERE WAS A COMMENT ON WHAT TO DO WITH NONCONFORMITY, NONAPPLIANCE. 
<time begin="2937"/><clear/>I GUESS THAT AGREES WITH WHAT I JUST SAID, EXCEPT I WOULD SAY THERE MAY BE SOME EXCEPTIONS OF HOW THIS IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN MULTISTATE AREAS. 
<time begin="2946"/><clear/>SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON INTO PM2.5 PROVISIONS. 
<time begin="2957"/><clear/>FOR PM2.5 AREAS, IT'S MUCH SIMPLER, SINCE IT'S CONSIDERED NEW POLLUTANT. 
<time begin="2963"/><clear/>THE FINAL RULE IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PM10 REQUIREMENT IN THAT ALL PM2.5 NONATTAINMENT AREAS WILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN EITHER THE BUILD OR NO BUILD GREATER TEST OR THE BUILD NO-GREATER-THAN-2002 TEST. 
<time begin="2983"/><clear/>ALL PM2.5 WILL BE ABLE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THOSE TWO TESTS. 
<time begin="2987"/><clear/>RIGHT NOW, THE RULE PROVIDES THAT REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS IS DONE FOR PM2.5, DIRECT PM2.5 EMISSIONS, EXCUSE ME. 
<time begin="2995"/><clear/>WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS PRECURSORS HERE IN A MOMENT. 
<time begin="2998"/><clear/>AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PRECURSOR IS ONE THAT EPA DID NOT FINALIZE IN RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="3009"/><clear/>SO DIRECT PM2.5 EMISSIONS COME FROM TAILPIPE BRAKE TIRE WEAR. 
<time begin="3014"/><clear/>AND THESE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN ALL PM2.5 AREAS. 
<time begin="3021"/><clear/>CURRENTLY, MOBILE6.2, WHICH WAS RELEASED RECENTLY, AND EMFAC2002 CALIFORNIA FACTORS. 
<time begin="3030"/><clear/>MOBILE6.2 WILL BE THE OFFICIAL MODEL FOR PM2.5 EMISSIONS ANALYSIS, REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3039"/><clear/>SO THERE WILL BE NO GRACE PERIOD WHEN YOU DO YOUR FIRST PM2.5 PERFORMING ANALYSIS, YOU'LL BE MOVING MOBILE 6.2 AND EMFAC OF CALIFORNIA. 
<time begin="3051"/><clear/>ANOTHER PART OF PM2.5 IS ROAD DUST. 
<time begin="3058"/><clear/>AND WHAT PROPOSED RULE HAD SOME HOPGZ OPTIONS HERE. 
<time begin="3061"/><clear/>BUT THE FINAL RULE SAID THAT BEFORE PM2.5 BUDGETS ARE ADEQUATE OR APPROVED, ROAD DUST IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS UNLESS EPA OR STATE AREA AGENCY DEFINES ROAD DUST AS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. 
<time begin="3077"/><clear/>SO UNLESS EPA OR THE STATE AREA MAKES THAT FINDING, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO  INCLUDE ROAD DUST IN YOUR REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3086"/><clear/>BUDGETS IN PLACE. 
<time begin="3088"/><clear/>IF THE BUDGET INCLUDES ROAD DUST, YOU'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE ROAD DUST, YOU'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE ROAD DUST. 
<time begin="3095"/><clear/>IF IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE. 
<time begin="3099"/><clear/>IT DEPENDS WHAT THE SIP SAYS. 
<time begin="3100"/><clear/>FOR CALCULATING ROAD DUST, WHEN EPA RECENTLY RELEASED MOBILE6.2, THEY ALSO MADE AP-42, THE METHOD IN WHICH YOU SHOULD CALCULATE ROAD DUST. 
<time begin="3116"/><clear/>UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD THAT'S BEEN APPROVED THROUGH CONSULTATION, YOU WOULD USE THE AP-42 METHODS AND THERE'S A LINK HERE ON THIS SLIDE. 
<time begin="3127"/><clear/>YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THIS LINK NOW. 
<time begin="3130"/><clear/>BUT IT WILL BE PART OF THE SLIDES AND YOU CAN GET IT WHEN YOU GET PART OF THE SLIDES. 
<time begin="3135"/><clear/>EPA ALSO RECOGNIZES THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THESE ESTIMATION METHODS IN THAT IN MANY CASES, THEY'RE OVERPREDICTING THE CONTRIBUTION OF ROAD DUST. 
<time begin="3147"/><clear/>PM2.5. 
<time begin="3149"/><clear/>THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON GUIDANCE THAT WILL ADDRESS HOW TO ADJUST THE ROAD DUST INVENTORIES AND ARE PLANNING ON HAVING THAT OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
<time begin="3159"/><clear/>THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF GUIDANCE TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT EPA HAS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. 
<time begin="3168"/><clear/>ANOTHER ELEMENT OF PM2.5 IS CONSTRUCTION DUST. 
<time begin="3171"/><clear/>AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO HOW PM10 IS ADDRESSED CURRENTLY. 
<time begin="3179"/><clear/>FROM THE CONSTRUCTION AMPUTATION PROJECTS IS ONLY INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL ANALYSIS IF IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THIS SIP AS SIGNIFICANT. 
<time begin="3189"/><clear/>SO PRIOR TO HAVING A PM2.5 SIP, YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CONSTRUCTION DUST. 
<time begin="3194"/><clear/>ONCE YOU HAVE A SIP, IF IS IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION DUST, YOU'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE YOUR REGIONAL ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3202"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, AP-42 IS THE RECOMMENDED METHOD FOR CALCULATING CONSTRUCTION DUST EMISSIONS. 
<time begin="3208"/><clear/>AND AS WE SAID EARLIER, EPA IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING GUIDANCE ON HOW TO APPLY AP-42 TO COME UP WITH CONSTRUCTION DUST EMISSIONS. 
<time begin="3221"/><clear/>THE FINAL ELEMENT THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN 2.5 IS PRECURSORS. 
<time begin="3228"/><clear/>EPA IS NOT FINALIZING ANY ELEMENTS RIGHT NOW. 
<time begin="3233"/><clear/>REQUIREMENTS DEALING WITH PM2.5 PRECURSORS. 
<time begin="3236"/><clear/>THEY ARE GOING TO FINALIZE THESE PRIOR TO PM2.5 DESIGNATIONS BECOMING EFFECTIVE. 
<time begin="3242"/><clear/>HOWEVER, THIS RULE MAKING DOES PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR PM2.5 AREAS ARE, YOU CAN ALREADY START WORKING TOWARDS SOME OF THE ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3255"/><clear/>ANY OF THE PRECURSORS EMISSION FACTORS WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE SAME WAY THE DIRECT EMISSIONS FACTORS ARE, THROUGH MOBILE 6.2 OR EMFAC. 
<time begin="3267"/><clear/>SO THOSE ARE CALCULATED AT THE SAME TIME THE DIRECT EMISSIONS ARE CALCULATED. 
<time begin="3271"/><clear/>SO YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND START WORKING TOWARD THAT ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3275"/><clear/>NO, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THE PRECURSOR -- YOU'RE NOT SURE HOW THE PRECURSORS WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE FINAL RULE. 
<time begin="3284"/><clear/>THE PROPOSED RULE MAKING IDENTIFIED FOUR PRECURSORS, FOUR POTENTIAL PRECURSORS FOR PM2.5. 
<time begin="3298"/><clear/>NOx VOCs, SULFUR OXIDES AND  -- SULFUR OXIDES AND AMMONIA AS POTENTIAL OPTIONS. 
<time begin="3305"/><clear/>THE FIRST OPTION, THE FIRST OPTION, OPTION ONE WOULD INCLUDE NOx AND VOCs UNLESS THE STATE AREA FOUND THEY WERE NOT SIGNIFICANT. 
<time begin="3316"/><clear/>AND THAT SOx AND AMMONIA WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS, UNLESS EPA OR AREAS DID FIND THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT. 
<time begin="3329"/><clear/>OPTION 2 WOULD TREAT ALL OF THE PRECURSORS THE SAME AND SAY THAT UNLESS EPA OR THE STATE AREA DEFINES THAT ONE OF THESE AREAS IS MORE SIGNIFICANT, YOU WOULD NOT INCLUDE THEM IN YOUR REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS. 
<time begin="3344"/><clear/>AND OF COURSE, ONCE YOU HAVE A SIP IN PLACE, IF YOU HAVE A SIP BUDGET FOR PRECURSOR, YOU WOULD DO CONFORMITY FOR THAT PRECURSOR. 
<time begin="3358"/><clear/>ALSO, IN THE PROPOSAL, EPA PROPOSED A NUMBER OF OPTIONS DEALING WITH PM2.5 AND PM10 HOT SPOTS. 
<time begin="3367"/><clear/>EPA RECEIVED A NUMBER OF COMMENTS AND DECIDED THAT THEY NEED TO DO A SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE AND PROPOSED RULE MAKING ON THE HOT-SPOT ISSUE. 
<time begin="3375"/><clear/>THEY WILL BE PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AND BE TAKING COMMENTS ON ALL THE OPTIONS LATER THIS SUMMER. 
<time begin="3383"/><clear/>IN THE MEANTIME, THE EXISTING PM10 HOT-SPOT REQUIREMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY. 
<time begin="3393"/><clear/>AND ONCE AGAIN, EPA PLANS ON FINALIZING EPA HOT SPOT REQUIREMENTS BITE EFFECTIVE DATE OF 2.5 DESIGNATION. 
<time begin="3408"/><clear/>SO THAT BASICALLY COVERS THE PM2.5 PRESENTATION. 
<time begin="3412"/><clear/>I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY QUESTIONS ON PM2.5. 
<time begin="3416"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] BUT YOU CAN TYPE THOSE IN. 
<time begin="3419"/><clear/>AH. 
<time begin="3420"/><clear/>WE HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT HAS COME IN. 
<time begin="3423"/><clear/>AND THAT IS, IS THERE A THREE-YEAR INTERVAL FOR THE MILESTONES FOR THE 2002 BASE YEAR AND THE EIGHT-HOUR ATTAINMENT YEAR? 
<time begin="3435"/><clear/>I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE QUESTION IS ASKING. 
<time begin="3444"/><clear/>THE BASE YEAR IS 2002. 
<time begin="3446"/><clear/>YOUR ATTAINMENT YEAR WILL DEPEND ON -- URE YOUR EIGHT-HOUR ATTAINMENT YEAR WILL DEPEND ON YOUR CLASSIFICATION. 
<time begin="3453"/><clear/>MARGINAL AREAS, I BELIEVE THEIR ATTAINMENT YEAR IS 2007. 
<time begin="3458"/><clear/>MODERATE, 2010 AND SO FORTH. 
<time begin="3460"/><clear/>SO YOUR ATTAINMENT YEAR WILL DEPEND ON YOUR CLASSIFICATION. 
<time begin="3463"/><clear/>THE MILESTONE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT YEARS YOU HAVE TO DO ANALYSIS FOR IN CONFORMITY WILL REMAIN THE SAME. 
<time begin="3473"/><clear/>YOU WILL HAVE TO TEST FOR THE LAST YEAR OF YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
<time begin="3478"/><clear/>FOR ANY YEAR THAT YOU HAVE A BUDGET AND ANY INTERMEDIATE YEAR SO THERE'S NOT MORE THAN 10 YEARS SEPARATING THEM. 
<time begin="3488"/><clear/>SO I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, IF I DID NOT, MAYBE YOU CAN TYPE IN A CLARIFICATION. 
<time begin="3495"/><clear/>BUT THAT'S. 
<time begin="3496"/><clear/>[ INAUDIBLE ] WITH THAT. 
<time begin="3499"/><clear/>I GUESS WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="3502"/><clear/>AND THE FIRST IS THE COURT DECISION. 
<time begin="3506"/><clear/>THE 1999 COURT DECISION THAT AFFECTED CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="3509"/><clear/>WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER GUIDANCE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
<time begin="3512"/><clear/>AND THE RULE MAKING, ALL THE RULE MAKING DOES IS INCORPORATE THAT GUIDANCE INTO THE RULE. 
<time begin="3518"/><clear/>SO THIS -- THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CHANGES IN HOW WE APPLY THE COURT DECISION. 
<time begin="3523"/><clear/>FIRST PART OF THE COURT DECISION WAS WHAT PROJECTS CAN PROCEED DURING A CONFORMITY LAPSE. 
<time begin="3528"/><clear/>ONCE AGAIN, EXEMPT PROJECTS CAN PROCEED AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION AND CONTROL MEASURES IN THE SIPs. 
<time begin="3536"/><clear/>AS WE HAVE BEEN PROCEEDING UNDER GUIDANCE, ANY PROJECTS PHASED THAT WAS APPROVED PRIOR TO THE LAPSE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. 
<time begin="3545"/><clear/>FOR NONFEDERAL PROJECTS, REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT NONFEDERAL PROJECTS CAN PROCEED DURING THE LAPSE IF THEY RECEIVED ALL OF THEIR APPROVALS PRIOR TO THE LAPSE. 
<time begin="3557"/><clear/>AND ANY NONFEDERAL PROJECTS CAN PROCEED DURING THE LAPSE. 
<time begin="3562"/><clear/>THESE ARE EITHER PART OF FHWA'S GUIDANCE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE COURT DECISION OR EPA'S GUIDANCE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE COURT DECISION. 
<time begin="3574"/><clear/>HERE ARE THE LIST OF GUIDANCE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER. 
<time begin="3579"/><clear/>OUR PRIMARY GUIDANCE FOR FEDERAL HIGHWAYS IS THE JANUARY 22 -- 2ND, 2002 GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="3590"/><clear/>FTA ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO CLARIFY HOW THIS AFFECTS TRANSIT PROJECTS. 
<time begin="3595"/><clear/>AND WE ALSO CLARIFIED IN ELEMENTS OF THE GUIDANCE ON HOW CONFORMITY APPLIES, PROJECTS REQUIRING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS. 
<time begin="3608"/><clear/>ALL OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS COME FROM EPA'S MAY 14, 1999 MEMO THAT COVERS SUBMITTED BUDGETS AND NONFEDERAL PROJECTS. 
<time begin="3621"/><clear/>I'VE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS HERE. 
<time begin="3625"/><clear/>IT SAYS DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE THIS IN ORDER TO PROCEED DURING THE CONFORMITY LAPSE? 
<time begin="3631"/><clear/>OUR GUIDANCE SAYS THAT TCMs SHOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED REDUCKS. 
<time begin="3636"/><clear/>HOWEVER, THAT IS A SHOULD. 
<time begin="3637"/><clear/>NOT A MUST. 
<time begin="3640"/><clear/>IF THERE IS A TCM IN AN APPROVED SIP, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED TO A CONFORMITY LAB. 
<time begin="3646"/><clear/>BUT THAT WILL NEED TO BE DISCUSSED DURING INTERIM CONSULTATION TO ENSURE THERE REALLY IS ONE. 
<time begin="3659"/><clear/>EXEMPT MUST COME FROM EXEMPT AND TIP. 
<time begin="3662"/><clear/>I THINK IT'S -- WHAT'S BEING ASKED HERE IS WHETHER AN INTERIM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING TIP HAS TO BE IN PLACE. 
<time begin="3671"/><clear/>WHEN YOU'RE IN A CONFORMITY LAPSE, YOU STILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="3678"/><clear/>AND THOSE REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TIPS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO PLAN PROJECTS. 
<time begin="3684"/><clear/>SO IF YOU ARE IN CONFORMITY AND CANNOT CONFORM IN TIPs, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLAN IN TIPS TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS. 
<time begin="3695"/><clear/>THAT'S PRIOR TO AN MOU THAT WE HAVE AT ETA AND YOU CAN FIND THAT ON OUR WEBSITE. 
<time begin="3705"/><clear/>AND LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT QUESTION IS THE SAME, DEALING WITH INTERIM PLANS AND TIPs. 
<time begin="3711"/><clear/>AND YES, AN INTERIM PLAN AND TIP WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PLACE DURING A PROJECT AND CONFORMITY. 
<time begin="3720"/><clear/>SO THE OTHER PART OF THE COURT DECISION HAD TO DO WITH THE USE OF SUBMITTED BUDGETS. 
<time begin="3724"/><clear/>IT SAID THAT AREAS COULD NOT USE SUBMITTED BUDGETS UNTIL EPA FOUND THEM ADEQUATE OR APPROVED THEM. 
<time begin="3731"/><clear/>SO THIS INCORPORATES EPA'S GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="3733"/><clear/>AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES FROM CURRENT PRACTICE. 
<time begin="3740"/><clear/>SO THIS SHOULD BE GOING ALONG THE WAY IT CONTINUES ON. 
<time begin="3746"/><clear/>THAL THIS DOES IS MAKE ITS PART OF THE RULE. 
<time begin="3752"/><clear/>NOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STREAMLINING ELEMENTS TO THE RULE THAT WE'VE GOOD INCLUDED. 
<time begin="3762"/><clear/>THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DEAL WITH THE TCM TRIGGER. 
<time begin="3768"/><clear/>REQUIRES AREAS TO REDETERMINE CONFORMITY WITHIN 18 MONTHS. 
<time begin="3772"/><clear/>CERTAIN SIP ACTIONS. 
<time begin="3777"/><clear/>AND PREVIOUSLY THOSE ACTIONS INCLUDED ADDING, CHANGING OR DELETING TCMs IN THE SIPs. 
<time begin="3784"/><clear/>THIS IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE CONFORMITY RULE. 
<time begin="3792"/><clear/>SO IF  REVISIONS WILL NO LONGER DETERMINE THE CONFORMITY CLOCK. 
<time begin="3798"/><clear/>THE REASON THIS IS SIGNIFICANT, IT SHOULD BE AFFECTING THE BUDGET AND THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER OTHER TRIGGERS. 
<time begin="3807"/><clear/>ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THE TRIGGERS THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. 
<time begin="3811"/><clear/>LET'S MAKE A STREAMLINE. 
<time begin="3814"/><clear/>PREVIOUSLY, AN 18-MONTH TRIGGER WAS INSTIGATED WHEN EPA FOUND A BUDGET ADEQUATE. 
<time begin="3820"/><clear/>AND ANOTHER BUDGET WAS FOUND WHEN EPA ACTUALLY APPROVED THEIR BUDGET. 
<time begin="3825"/><clear/>SO SAME BUDGET COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TWO SEPARATE CLOCKS GOING. 
<time begin="3830"/><clear/>WHAT THIS IS AS IS IF YOU'VE ALREADY USED THE BUDGET FOR CONFORMITY WHEN EPA APPROVES THE BUDGET, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER 18-MONTH CLOCK. 
<time begin="3839"/><clear/>SO IF YOU HAVE -- IF YOU HAD AN ADEQUACY DETERMINATION AND YOU MET THAT 18-MONTH CLOCK ON A BOTTOMING. 
<time begin="3846"/><clear/>IF THE SAME BUDGET IS LATER APPROVED, IT DID NOT START ANOTHER 18-MONTH CLOCK. 
<time begin="3854"/><clear/>ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT WE'VE CHANGED IS THE LATEST PLANNING ASSUMPTIONS. 
<time begin="3860"/><clear/>THE WAY THE RULE WAS WRITTEN, IT STATED THAT THE LATEST PLANNING ASSUMPTIONS MUST BE USED AT THE POINT WHERE D.O.T.s DETERMINATION IS MAY. 
<time begin="3871"/><clear/>THAT COULD MEAN THE MPO HAS GONE THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE PROCESS, THEIR WHOLE REGIONAL EMISSION ITS ANALYSIS, MADE THEIR CONFORMITY DETERMINATION CENTER TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. 
<time begin="3883"/><clear/>AND AT THAT POINT NEW DATA BECAME AVAILABLE UNDER THE OLD RULE, WE COULD NOT MAKE OUR CONFORMITY DETERMINATION. 
<time begin="3890"/><clear/>SO WHAT THE REVISION SAYS IS THAT LATE PLANNING MUST BE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THE ANALYSIS BEGINS. 
<time begin="3898"/><clear/>ASK THAT POINT SHOULD BE DETERMINED THROUGH INTERAGENCY CONSULTATION. 
<time begin="3902"/><clear/>BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE MODELING FOR THE REGIONAL EMISSIONS ANALYSIS BEGINS. 
<time begin="3914"/><clear/>ANOTHER ELEMENT IS WE'VE CLARIFIED A GRACE PERIOD, PERIODS THAT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH MORE RIGOROUS PLANNING AND MODELING REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="3924"/><clear/>THIS PROBABLY WILL NOT AFFECT MANY AREAS. 
<time begin="3928"/><clear/>BUT THIS IS THE CASE WHERE YOU WERE, LET'S SAY, MODERATE, OZONE AREA. 
<time begin="3933"/><clear/>AND YOU WERE NOT SUBJECT TO THE MODELING REQUIREMENTS AND YOU WERE BUMPED UP TO A SERIOUS OR SEVERE AREA. 
<time begin="3940"/><clear/>AND YOU WERE SUDDENLY SUBJECT TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THIS WOULD GIVE A TWO-YEAR GRACE PERIOD FOR YOU TO COMPLY WITH THOSE MODELING REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="3951"/><clear/>SO THAT BASICALLY COVERS MAJOR ELEMENTS OF THE RULE. 
<time begin="3958"/><clear/>AND WE CAN TAKE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, IF YOU WANT TO TYPE THEM IN. 
<time begin="3963"/><clear/>WE'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO DO THAT. 
<time begin="3966"/><clear/>OTHERWISE, WE'LL MOVE ON IN A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT OUTREACH AND UPCOMING ACTIVITIES. 
<time begin="4002"/><clear/>ALL RIGHT. 
<time begin="4003"/><clear/>QUESTION IS, CAN CONFORMITY, THE EIGHT-HOUR STANDARD BE DETERMINED PRIOR TO JUNE 15, 2005? 
<time begin="4011"/><clear/>YES. 
<time begin="4012"/><clear/>ALTHOUGH CONFORMITY IS NOT REQUIRED UNTIL THAT POINT, IT CAN BE DETERMINED PRIOR TO THAT. 
<time begin="4017"/><clear/>HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP SOME OF YOU. 
<time begin="4020"/><clear/>THIS COULD BE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE DOING A PLAN UPDATE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR. 
<time begin="4026"/><clear/>YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR EIGHT-HOUR CONFORMITY DETERMINATION AT THAT TIME IF YOU CAN. 
<time begin="4034"/><clear/>BUT, YOU STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE ONE-HOUR CONFORMITY AS WELL. 
<time begin="4038"/><clear/>SO IF YOU DO COMPLY WITH EIGHT-HOUR EARLY, IF YOU'RE ONE-HOUR, YOU MAY BE DOING CONFORMITY AGAINST BOTH STANDARDS. 
<time begin="4046"/><clear/>NEXT IS SO IF THE FINAL RULE IN EFFECT NOW? 
<time begin="4050"/><clear/>OFFICIALLY, NO. 
<time begin="4051"/><clear/>IT'S NOT BEEN IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER YET. 
<time begin="4057"/><clear/>BUT THE EPA MINISTER HAS SIGNED THE RULE. 
<time begin="4060"/><clear/>SO ONCE IT COMES ALONG, IT WILL BE OFFICIAL. 
<time begin="4063"/><clear/>BUT THERE SHOULD BE NO CHANGES TO THE RULE. 
<time begin="4066"/><clear/>THEY HAVE SIGNED THE RULE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. 
<time begin="4072"/><clear/>SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD. 
<time begin="4073"/><clear/>PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTINUE TYPING YOUR QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="4076"/><clear/>BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FORTHCOMING GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="4082"/><clear/>I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT EPA IS WORKING ON. 
<time begin="4086"/><clear/>THE FIRST IS THE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="4089"/><clear/>I THINK THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT TO MOST PEOPLE. 
<time begin="4092"/><clear/>BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME VERY COMPLEX AREAS THAT INVOLVE ONE, TWO, THREE, OR EVEN FOUR STATES. 
<time begin="4103"/><clear/>AND EIGHT OR 12, WE REALIZE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO HOW TO INTERPRET THIS RULE. 
<time begin="4110"/><clear/>SO WE ARE,  -- WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD WITH EPA TO GET THIS OUT NEXT MONTH. 
<time begin="4116"/><clear/>ANOTHER THING WORKING ON IS TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY IN INDIAN COUNTRY. 
<time begin="4121"/><clear/>WE REALIZE THAT A NUMBER OF NONATTAINMENT AREAS INCLUDE TRIBAL LAND. 
<time begin="4126"/><clear/>BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND TRIBAL ENTITIES, EPA IS WORKING ON SPECIFIC GUIDANCE THAT DEALS WITH TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY IN THOSE AREAS. 
<time begin="4142"/><clear/>OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED IS CONFORMITY SIPs. 
<time begin="4147"/><clear/>TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY RULE REQUIRES THAT AREAS REQUIRING CONFORMITY SIPs TO PUT THEIR CONFORMITY REQUIREMENTS IN THEIR SIP. 
<time begin="4156"/><clear/>ONCE THEY'RE IN THE SIP, THEY BASICALLY KIND OF OVERSHADOW THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT. 
<time begin="4163"/><clear/>SO SOME OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT JUST CAME OUT IN THIS RULE MAKING WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF UNTIL THE CONFORMITY TIPs ARE REVISED. 
<time begin="4177"/><clear/>THIS ONLY REFLECTS SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS. 
<time begin="4180"/><clear/>ALL OF THE REQUIREMENT DEALING WITH THE NEW STANDARDS SHOULD NOT BE PART OF CONFORMITY SIPs OR NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT TO UTILIZE THE NEW STANDARDIZED INFORMATION BY COURT DECISION. 
<time begin="4190"/><clear/>BECAUSE THE COURT DECISION WOULD OVERRULE CONFORMITY SIPs AS WELL AS IT OVERRULED THE FEDERAL CONFORMITY REGULATION. 
<time begin="4198"/><clear/>SO WHAT THIS REALLY APPLIES TO IS A LOT OF OF THE STREAMLINING THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THESE MAY HAVE TO BE CHANGED BEFORE AREAS CAN USE THEM. 
<time begin="4208"/><clear/>BUT EPA WILL BE PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON HOW THIS RULE APPLIES, ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THIS RULE MAKING. 
<time begin="4215"/><clear/>FINALLY, THE LAST GUIDANCE I MENTIONED WAS THIS ADJUSTING JUST EMISSIONS FROM 1842. 
<time begin="4222"/><clear/>AND WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT LATER IN THE YEAR. 
<time begin="4225"/><clear/>GOT A FEW MEASURE QUESTIONS COME IN. 
<time begin="4228"/><clear/>ONE IT THE PBS CONVERSION RULE WITH 450 PAGES. 
<time begin="4233"/><clear/>WE HAVE A CFR FORMAT VERSION SOON. 
<time begin="4236"/><clear/>ONCE THE NEW RULE MAKING IT PUBLISHED IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER, IT SHOULD BE QUITE A BIT SHORTER BECAUSE THE FORM AT -- FORMAT AND THE FEDERAL REGISTER. 
<time begin="4247"/><clear/>THAT VERSION, I WOULD SAY MAYBE A THIRD. 
<time begin="4249"/><clear/>USUALLY ABOUT A THIRD. 
<time begin="4251"/><clear/>MAY BRING YOU DOWN TO CLOSER TO 100 PAGES, BULL STILL GOING TO BE QUITE LONG. 
<time begin="4255"/><clear/>THAT WILL INCLUDE THE PREAMBLE AND THE RULE CHANGES. 
<time begin="4259"/><clear/>EPA WILL BE POSTING ON THEIR WEBSITE, A COMPLETE VERSION OF THE UPDATED RULE AS IT WOULD APPEAR IN THE CFR. 
<time begin="4265"/><clear/>THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE YET. 
<time begin="4269"/><clear/>BUT EPA HAS COMMITTED TO DOING THAT SHORTLY. 
<time begin="4274"/><clear/>SO ON EPA'S WEBSITE, THEY WILL HAVE A VERSION OF THE RULE THAT INCLUDES ALL THE CHANGES TO DATE. 
<time begin="4279"/><clear/>BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S NOT QUITE AVAILABLE YET. 
<time begin="4282"/><clear/>NEXT QUESTION, WILL THE NEW EPA GUIDANCE ALSO ADDRESS ADJUSTING PM10 DUST EMISSIONS FROM 1842? 
<time begin="4289"/><clear/>YES. 
<time begin="4290"/><clear/>THAT'S THE FOURTH ELEMENT OF GUIDANCE I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. 
<time begin="4294"/><clear/>THAT GUIDANCE WILL ADDRESS HOW TO JUST -- ADJUST JUST EMISSIONS INVENTORIES TO MORE CLOSELY REFLECT CONDITIONS. 
<time begin="4305"/><clear/>THEY INFORMED ME THAT THE RULE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THREE COLUMNS IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. 
<time begin="4310"/><clear/>THAT'S WHY I WAS COVERING IT AS FAR AS THE FORMAT. 
<time begin="4314"/><clear/>THAT FEDERAL REGISTER WILL BE MUCH SHORTER. 
<time begin="4317"/><clear/>BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE FAIRLY LONG. 
<time begin="4319"/><clear/>YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THREE COLUMNS, I ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL PROBABLY STILL BE AROUND 100 PAGES. 
<time begin="4326"/><clear/>HOPEFULLY SHORTER, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE LONG. 
<time begin="4330"/><clear/>OKAY. 
<time begin="4332"/><clear/>LAST THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WAS PRIOR TO OUTREACH, JIM MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OUTREACH ACTIVITIES PLANNED. 
<time begin="4346"/><clear/>I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FOUR ONE-DAY REGIONAL WORKSHOPS THAT FHWA IS PLANNING. 
<time begin="4351"/><clear/>WE ARE JUST NOW, TODAY, I CONFIRMED THE DATES FOR THESE WORKSHOPS. 
<time begin="4356"/><clear/>BUT WE WILL BE HAVING A FLYER THAT WE'LL BE SENDING OUT SHORTLY THAT WILL EXPLAIN HOW YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THESE WORKSHOPS. 
<time begin="4364"/><clear/>THEY WILL BE JULY 21st, HERE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. 
<time begin="4367"/><clear/>JULY 22nd, IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. 
<time begin="4371"/><clear/>JULY 27th IN DALLAS, TEXAS. 
<time begin="4374"/><clear/>AUGUST 3rd IF IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA. 
<time begin="4377"/><clear/>IN THESE WORKSHOPS, WE'LL BASICALLY COVER MAINLY THE CHANGES TO THE CONFORMITY RULE. 
<time begin="4383"/><clear/>THEY'LL NOT COVER CONFORMITY BASICS, BUT BE MORE DIRECTED FORS THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KNOW HOW TO APPLY THE CHANGES AND HOW TO DO CONFORMITY IN THE NEW AREAS UNDER THE NEW STANDARDS. 
<time begin="4395"/><clear/>ALSO AS PART OF THESE WORKSHOPS, WE WILL INCLUDE PRESENTATIONS ON C MAX BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
<time begin="4402"/><clear/>AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THOSE WORKSHOPS ON THAT. 
<time begin="4407"/><clear/>WE'RE PLANNING -- EPA IS PLANNING A NUMBER OF OUTREACH ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING FIVE OF THEIR OWN REGIONAL WORKSHOPS. 
<time begin="4415"/><clear/>THEY'LL BE HAVING TWO-DAY WORKSHOPS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE IN SOME CASES, SOME BASIC CONFORMITY TRAINING. 
<time begin="4421"/><clear/>I'D REFER YOU TO EPA'S WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR WORKSHOP, OR YOU CAN CONTACT ME. 
<time begin="4428"/><clear/>OUR NEXT STEPS, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE GETTING THE RULE IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER AND WORKING ON THE MULTIJURISDICTIONAL GUIDANCE. 
<time begin="4436"/><clear/>AS FAR AS THIS PRESENTATION GOES, WE HAVE BEEN RECORDING THIS. 
<time begin="4440"/><clear/>IT WILL BE AVAILABLE WITH A TRANSCRIPT ON OUR WEBSITE SHORTLY. 
<time begin="4446"/><clear/>WE WILL BE TYPING UP THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED AND THE ANSWERS, AND ALSO MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE. 
<time begin="4452"/><clear/>SO YOU CAN HAVE CLEAR QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="4458"/><clear/>WE DO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE ROOM THAT COULD ANSWER YOUR CMAX QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="4463"/><clear/>MIKE SAVONIS IS HERE. 
<time begin="4466"/><clear/>SO IF YOU DID HAVE CMAX QUESTIONS, YOU COULD TYPE THEM IN AS WELL AT THIS POINT. 
<time begin="4474"/><clear/>ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, THE PRESENTER REPEAT HIS NAME. 
<time begin="4478"/><clear/>MY NAME IS GARY JENSEN. 
<time begin="4480"/><clear/>ON THE SLIDE HERE, YOU CAN SEE MY NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, AS WELL AS MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. 
<time begin="4485"/><clear/>IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME OR CECILIA HO. 
<time begin="4489"/><clear/>WHOSE INFORMATION IS HERE. 
<time begin="4491"/><clear/>I'D ALSO REFER YOU TO OUR WEBSITE AND IN ADDITION THE EPA'S WEBSITE. 
<time begin="4496"/><clear/>THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE YOU'LL FIND THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. 
<time begin="4502"/><clear/>QUESTION IS, WILL THE NEW RULE SUPERSEDE THE 1997 RULE OR WILL WE HAVE TO MESH THEM OURSELVES? 
<time begin="4507"/><clear/>WELL, IT DOES NOT SUPERSEDE THE 1997 RULE. 
<time begin="4510"/><clear/>SO IT DOES ONLY MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE TO ADDRESS THE NEW STANDARDS AND THE COURT DECISION NEEDS STREAMLINING THINGS. 
<time begin="4524"/><clear/>HOWEVER, AS I SAID, EPA IS GOING TO MESH AND COMPLETE RULES THAT INCLUDES ALL THE CHANGES FROM THE 1997 RULE. 
<time begin="4531"/><clear/>A COUPLE OF MINOR REVISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE INTERIM AS WELL. 
<time begin="4535"/><clear/>SO HOPEFULLY IN SHORT ORDER, WE'LL HAVE A COMPLETE VERSION ON THE WEBSITE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO OBTAIN. 
<time begin="4546"/><clear/>[ BRIEF PAUSE IN CAPTIONS ] 
<time begin="4550"/><clear/>CAN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM CONGRESS ON THE CMAC FORMULA? 
<time begin="4553"/><clear/>NO, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE HAVE. 
<time begin="4557"/><clear/>AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION INCLUDED CHANGES TO THE CMAC FORMULA TO INCLUDE THE CONTAINMENT AREAS. 
<time begin="4564"/><clear/>OUR BILL, THE SENATE ADOPTED THOSE PROVISIONS BUT THE HOUSE DID NOT. 
<time begin="4569"/><clear/>TO BE HONEST, I PERFECTLY EXPECT THE HOUSE TO GO ALONG WITH THE SENATE VERSION BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD AT ALL FROM THE CONGRESS ABOUT THAT. 
<time begin="4584"/><clear/>THE OTHER QUESTION, D, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT SAYS IS GM-10 GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE CMACK ALLOCATION FORMULA. 
<time begin="4594"/><clear/>AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WOULD BE SURPRISED M-10 WERE ADDED. 
<time begin="4599"/><clear/>STRANGER THANKS MAY HAVE HAPPENED BUT RIGHT NOW M-10 IS NOT IN EITHER THE HOUSE AND ITS VERSION OF THE CMAC APPORTIONMENT AND AS THEY GO TO CONFERENCE AND DISCUSS IT, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT P.M. 10 WOULD BE ADD ED. 
<time begin="4613"/><clear/>WE CAN HANG ON A FEW MORE MINUTES AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO TYPE IN. 
<time begin="4619"/><clear/>SO WE'LL BE HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE MINUTES BUT YOU SEE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION UP HERE. 
<time begin="4625"/><clear/>LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO US AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU, AND ONCE -- 
<time begin="4635"/><clear/>ONCE THIS MATERIAL IS AVAILABLE, AS FAR AS TYPING UP THE QUESTIONS AND PRESENTATION MATERIALS ON OUR WEB SITE, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW. 
<time begin="4642"/><clear/>I GUESS SOMETHING WAS GOING WRONG BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A REQUEST TO REPEAT THE ANSWER ON P.M. 10. 
<time begin="4648"/><clear/>AND ESSENTIALLY MY ANSWER WAS THAT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS INCLUDED BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE THAT IS WHETHER PM10 WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CMAC APPORTIONMENT FORMULA. 
<time begin="4659"/><clear/>NEITHER THE HOUSE VERSION OF THE BILL, NOR THE SENATE'S VERSION OF THE BILL, CURRENTLY INCLUDED PM10. 
<time begin="4666"/><clear/>THERE WAS SOME EARLY DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE SENATE, I BELIEVE, ABOUT INCLUDING PM10, BUT THAT WAS DROPPED AFTER IT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE 
<time begin="4677"/><clear/>AND WHEN IT WENT TO THE FULL SENATE FOR A VOTE, IT INCLUDED ONLY THE ADMINISTRATION'S BILL WHICH ONLY INCLUDED FINE, TICK LAT MATTER. 
<time begin="4683"/><clear/>SO IT IS POSSIBLE AS THEY GO TO CONFERENCE THAT PM10 WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE CMAC APPORTIONMENT BUT CURRENTLY IT'S IN NEITHER VERSION. 
<time begin="4693"/><clear/>IT SAYS WILL THERE BE A PUBLICATION THAT COMPARES THE ORIGINAL AND THE AMENDED REGULATION? 
<time begin="4699"/><clear/>THERE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE ONE THAT COMPARES THE WHOLE THING, BECAUSE THE AMENDMENTS AFFECT JUST THOSE CHANGES. 
<time begin="4707"/><clear/>THERE IS A COMPARISON CHART ON THE EVEN'S WEB SITE THAT COMPARES THE PROPOSAL AND FINAL RULE BUT MOST OF THE ELEMENTS CHANGING IN THE RULE ARE NEW. 
<time begin="4718"/><clear/>HOWEVER THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER SOME SORT OF TOOL THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE FIND THE PARTS OF THE RULE THAT HAVE CHANGED. 
<time begin="4725"/><clear/>NO GUARANTEE, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE IT ON AND SEE IF THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. 
<time begin="4731"/><clear/>THE COMPUTER? 
<time begin="4733"/><clear/>WE HAVE ANOTHER CMAC QUESTION HERE. 
<time begin="4736"/><clear/>ARE THERE ANY NEW PROVISIONS THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS TO CMAC FUNDS BY AREAS IN ATTAINMENT. 
<time begin="4741"/><clear/>NO, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY RIGHT OFF HAND. 
<time begin="4744"/><clear/>CMAC PROVISIONS WOULD REMAIN LARGELY UNCHANGED IN THAT REGARD. 
<time begin="4749"/><clear/>THE QUESTION FREQUENTLY COMES UP ABOUT THE EARLY ACTION CONTACT AREAS AND CMAC FUNDING, AND THOSE -- THOSE AREAS, UNFORTUNATELY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE STATUTORY FORMULA CURRENTLY, OBVIOUSLY. 
<time begin="4760"/><clear/>NOR ARE THEY INCLUDED IN EITHER THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE BILLS IN THE CMAC APPORTIONMENT PROVISIONS. 
<time begin="4765"/><clear/>SO THERE WOULD BE NO REAL WAY TO PROVIDE CMAC FUNDING TO THOSE AREAS IF THEY WERE NOT MAINTENANCE FOR ONE OF THE OTHER POLLUTANTS. 
<time begin="4773"/><clear/>THERE IS A QUESTION THAT ALSO COMES UP ABOUT CMAC FUNDING AFTER THE STANDARD IS REVOKED, AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, I'M SURE. 
<time begin="4780"/><clear/>THEY PLAN TO EVOKE THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD IN 2005. 
<time begin="4786"/><clear/>AND WE HAVE NOT FORMALIZED OUR GUIDANCE ON THAT. 
<time begin="4790"/><clear/>OUR CURRENT GUIDANCE, WHICH GOES BACK AWAYS, BACK TO 1999, WHEN EPA WAS LAST GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW AIR QUALITY STANDARDS, WE HAD PROVIDED FOR A TRANSITION PERIOD IN TWO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. 
<time begin="4800"/><clear/>ONE IS THAT WE ALLOWED A FOUR-MONTH GRACE PERIOD TO CHANGE OR AMENDMENT SO THAT AREAS COULD, IN FACT, ADD PROJECTS TO THEIR SIPS, EVEN THOUGH THE ONE-HOUR STANDARD WAS GOING TO BE REVOKED 
<time begin="4815"/><clear/>AND THEN TWO WE ALLOWED CMAC PROJECTS THAT WERE PROGRAMMED FOR CMAC FUNDING IN THE TIP IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE TIP THEY COULD GO FORWARD, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE WAS ALLOWED. 
<time begin="4826"/><clear/>AS I SAY, WE HAVE NOT REDIRECTED THAT GUIDANCE AT THIS POINT. 
<time begin="4832"/><clear/>PROVIDING FOR SOME LEVEL OF CONTINUITY MAKES SENSE FOR US AND WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR, SOMEHOW, BUT I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO KEEP -- KEEP A WATCH ON OUR WEB SITE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE COMING OUT ON THAT. 
<time begin="4844"/><clear/>THE NEXT QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH BASICALLY PROS AND CONS BETWEEN THE BUILD, NO BUILD TEST, AND BASELINE TEST. 
<time begin="4850"/><clear/>FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, THE PREAMBLE TO THE RULE MAKING DOES RESPOND TO A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE GOT ON WHICH TEST IS BETTER. 
<time begin="4858"/><clear/>THE BASELINE OR THE BUILD/NO BUILD TEST. 
<time begin="4861"/><clear/>FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, I WOULD PREFER YOU TO THE PREAMBLE OF THE RULE MAKING TO KIND OF GO OVER THOSE ISSUES. 
<time begin="4867"/><clear/>WE HAVE COMMENTS ON BOTH SIDES THAT THEY THOUGHT THE BUILD/NO BUILD TEST WAS BETTER AND THEN THOUGHT THE BASELINE TEST WAS BETTER FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, A RESOURCE STANDPOINT, 
<time begin="4874"/><clear/>I THINK THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHEN YOU DO BUILD/NO BUILD TEST, HAVE YOU TO KEEP -- HAVE YOU TO MAINTAIN TWO MODELING NETWORKS. 
<time begin="4880"/><clear/>FOR THE ENTIRE HORIZON OF YOUR PLAN. 
<time begin="4884"/><clear/>SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO MODELING NETWORKS AND YOU TRAVEL THE MAN MODEL WHEREAS WITH THE BASELINE TEST YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE THE SINGLE -- THE SINGLE NETWORK. 
<time begin="4891"/><clear/>SO JUST FROM A RESOURCE ISSUE I THINK FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TESTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD. 
<time begin="4899"/><clear/>WELL, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS COMING IN. 
<time begin="4902"/><clear/>SO I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP NOW. 
<time begin="4904"/><clear/>IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS LATER ON THAT YOU THINK OF, LIKE I SAID, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AND WE'LL TRY TO GET AN ANSWER TOGETHER, OR, OF COURSE, THE FHWA DIVISION OFFICE IN YOUR STATE, 
<time begin="4912"/><clear/>IS PROBABLY YOUR PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT FOR ANY CONFORMING QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA. 
<time begin="4918"/><clear/>OR YOUR EPA REGIONAL OFFICE. 
<time begin="4922"/><clear/>BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IN WITH YOUR DIVISION OFFICE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
<time begin="4926"/><clear/>I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR JOINING US. 
<time begin="4928"/><clear/>I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT WE GOT A LATE START WITH OUR TECHNICAL GLITCH AND ALSO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF THE -- OF THE NET CONFERENCE. 
<time begin="4935"/><clear/>BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US. 
<time begin="4938"/><clear/>AND I HOPE THIS WAS OF SOME ASSISTANCE. 
<time begin="4940"/><clear/>THANKS. 
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