1 PUBLIC HEARINGS
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3 IN RE: DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL )
IMPACT STATEMENT AND DRAFT )
4 SECTION 4(F) STATEMENT )
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5 SOUTH AND EAST BELTWAYS, )
LINCOLN, NEBRASKA )
6 PROJECT NO. DPU-3300(1) )
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Hearings held April 23 and 24, 2001, at the
9 Lincoln Berean Church, 6400 S. 70th Street,
Hearing Room 2, Lincoln, Nebraska
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12 A P P E A R A N C E S
13 HEARING OFFICER: MR. PAUL H. LADEHOFF, J.D.
Program Coordinator
14 The Mediation Center
1120 K Street, Suite 200
15 Lincoln, NE 68508
16 WITNESSES: MR. ALAN FOSLER
3801 Cape Charles Court
17 Lincoln, NE 68516
MR. JOHN BECK
18 10100 Holdrege Street
Lincoln, NE 68527
19 MS. NANCY BECK
10100 Holdrege Street
20 Lincoln, NE 68527
MR. WILLIAM SPEIDEL
21 10100 Pioneers Boulevard
Lincoln, NE 68520
22 MS. LYN WINEMAN
3005 South 138th Street
23 Walton, NE 68461
MR. KEN REITAN
24 2310 South Canterbury Lane
Lincoln, NE 68512
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1 (At 5:05 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness Alan Fosler, and
3 the court reporter being present, the following
4 testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Let's go
6 on the record then. Any time -- any time
7 you're ready.
8 ALAN FOSLER: Okay. Thank you.
9 Again, my name is Alan Fosler, and I'm
10 appearing today on behalf of myself;
11 however, I wanted to explain some of my
12 background and exposure I have had to
13 this project. My occupation -- I'm a
14 banker. I work for Union Bank & Trust
15 Company and -- and am head of their
16 operations area. As part of that, I have
17 been involved with the Lincoln Chamber of
18 Commerce and their Infrastructure
19 Committee which is also studying the
20 South and East Beltway Projects. I have
21 attended the Public Comment Forum on
22 February 6th which was held at the Gere
23 Library, and I've heard a presentation by
24 Jim Linderholm which he gave to the
25 Chamber of Commerce Subcommittee on March
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1 28th. And in addition to that, I've read
2 the various newspaper articles and
3 visited with people about this topic and
4 just wanted to come by today to voice my
5 opinion on this project.
6 Basically, I have two major issues
7 that appear to be important to me.
8 Again, these are from my own perspective
9 and not any official capacity for those
10 entities that I've worked with. The
11 first one would be that I think that the
12 South Beltway should be separated from
13 the East Beltway Project because they
14 appear to be separate needs. There
15 appears to be an immediate need for the
16 South Beltway based upon traffic, current
17 traffic flows, and the general proximity
18 that the Beltway is to the City of
19 Lincoln. I think it is a great
20 improvement for safety and the handling
21 of the large volume of truck traffic that
22 exists today. The area of town where I
23 live -- I'm very close to Highway 2, and
24 I see firsthand the truck traffic that
25 exists on Highway 2.
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1 The second major issue I wanted to
2 identify was in regards to the East
3 Beltway and the obvious importance there
4 is for selecting a final route of the
5 three that exists today, and it is based
6 on my own observations that the best
7 route appears to be the Middle Route
8 which appears to be the least intrusive
9 and the most logical for a physical
10 connection of the south traffic,
11 potential future South Beltway, the
12 existing Highway 2, and then north-south
13 traffic off of this East Beltway.
14 Some of my reasonings for this: I
15 feel -- I've observed that it's the
16 lowest or fewest residential relocations
17 impact for the Middle Route and appears
18 to be the fewest total acres needed to be
19 obtained to build this route as well.
20 I'm not as well-versed on some of
21 the statistical information that I picked
22 up upstairs --
23 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
24 ALAN FOSLER: -- but it does appear
25 that the Middle Route gives the highest
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1 daily time savings, but I also fall back
2 to my personal opinion that it just
3 appears to be most logical to me.
4 As a southeast resident of Lincoln,
5 for me to travel to Omaha, this would be
6 an acceptable route, and, again, with the
7 Near Route probably being most intrusive
8 to existing residents and traffic flow,
9 and the Far Route, in today's
10 environment, just too far away. Also, it
11 did not appear logical to me to build a
12 Far Route that would be basically within
13 two blocks of an existing north-south
14 paved highway which, I believe, is 148th
15 Street which is currently in existence.
16 So I guess in conclusion then, I
17 support both projects, the East and South
18 Beltways, specifically the Middle-East
19 Route. I believe it would be a great
20 improvement for traffic safety, for
21 handling not just truck but car traffic,
22 and that it would be most convenient and
23 an accessible route for me from my
24 location to travel northeast from
25 southeast Lincoln. So those are my
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1 comments I would like to present to you.
2 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
3 Well, we thank you for coming in this
4 afternoon. We can go off the record
5 then.
6 (Testimony concluded at 5:10 p.m.)
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1 (At 5:42 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness John Beck, and
3 the court reporter being present, the following
4 testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
6 Let's go on the record. Any time you're
7 ready, John.
8 JOHN BECK: Basically, most of
9 the -- of the issues regarding the
10 Beltway have been covered, and -- and I'm
11 not going to go into all of that with you
12 again. It's -- we both know them. There
13 are two things that I'd like to bring up,
14 though. One is that in the meetings that
15 I've attended recently -- "recently"
16 being the last two years -- I've -- I've
17 been troubled by an increasing confusion
18 about what the purpose for a bypass would
19 be serving -- or East Lincoln Bypass.
20 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
21 JOHN BECK: And I -- all my comments
22 are directed towards the East Bypass.
23 The South is a separate issue and, I
24 think, stands on separate merits. The
25 East Bypass will not -- and initially was
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1 not intended to -- alleviate traffic in
2 Lincoln's core area. In order to
3 alleviate traffic on 27th Street, you've
4 got to widen 27th Street; 48th Street,
5 you've got to widen 48th Street. And
6 I -- in my written comments -- and I'll
7 mention it verbally as well -- HWS did an
8 origin destination study a number of
9 years ago, and it -- it was -- you know,
10 it was a terribly flawed study, and that
11 was unfortunate, but one of the things
12 that it did lead in the direction of --
13 of establishing is that Lincolnites don't
14 drive very far out of their way to go
15 somewhere. If they want to go north,
16 they go north. They don't go five miles
17 east to go north to go back five miles
18 west. It's just not in their habits at
19 this point in time. I don't see any
20 reason to think that that would change.
21 What the East Bypass will serve, if
22 it's built, is it will provide a
23 connection between the populated areas
24 south of Lincoln and I-80 East toward
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1 order to achieve that purpose, there's no
2 benefit in putting the Bypass further
3 west. People that are going from south
4 Lincoln east to Omaha don't care about
5 going east of Lincoln to get there.
6 They're going that way anyhow.
7 Moving the Bypass east will get it
8 away from Lincoln's populated area, away
9 from areas of potential future growth,
10 prevent it from being enveloped by
11 development which will slow down traffic
12 on the Bypass and will route it through
13 less populated and less expensive land.
14 I'd go one step further than the
15 proposed Far-East Route and say that
16 Highway 63 and 42 are already State
17 highways. The State already owns
18 right-of-way along those routes. They
19 are about -- I think. I'm guessing. I
20 haven't measured it lately -- but three
21 and four miles respectively east of the
22 proposed Far-East Route which isn't much
23 to be able to build on land where the
24 right-of-way is already acquired. And if
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1 Highway 34/O Street -- which is O Street
2 and the -- it's about a six mile section
3 between where Highway 42 sort of runs
4 awry near A Street and Highway 2. If
5 that were built along a diagonal, you'd
6 have a very nice route from whatever
7 connective roadways are built in south
8 Lincoln and I-80 going east. Very little
9 right-of-way to acquire, and also, that
10 little short piece at the bottom end
11 there could, I assume, be built as a
12 priority part of the Project using the
13 existing roadways as two lanes as they
14 are to serve the needs and then build an
15 additional two lanes, much as was done
16 with Highway 2 between --
17 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
18 JOHN BECK: -- Lincoln and Nebraska
19 City.
20 So in short, as far east as
21 possible. I don't think the study area
22 right now is far enough east, and
23 parenthetically, I'll just stick on there
24 that I realize that puts you into Cass
25 County. Right now if you drive through
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1 southern -- the southern part --
2 southwestern parts of Omaha, you drive
3 between Douglas and Sarpy Counties, and
4 you don't even notice that you did it.
5 The fact that it crosses a county
6 boundary, I think, is irrelevant. I
7 think it's very shortsighted for Lincoln
8 and Lancaster County to not consult with
9 Cass County on what is inevitably going
10 to be a regional project that will affect
11 both counties.
12 The second point brings up an issue
13 of -- of basic fairness, and I realize
14 that it's not something the City really
15 cares about. It's something that -- and
16 I don't mean that they're calloused
17 people in city government, but I think
18 there's a perception in city government
19 that it's something that they can't and
20 shouldn't care about. I disagree.
21 In 1986 my wife and I went looking
22 for property to buy. We found our
23 current property on East Holdrege. I
24 talked with the City Planning Department
25 about it. I specifically discussed the
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1 1972 or 3 beltway study with them. They
2 very clearly articulated that Lincoln had
3 no interest out there and that that
4 beltway project was dead. I accepted
5 that. In 1992 the Planning Department,
6 the -- started another round of beltway
7 studies. We actually delayed
8 construction on our house somewhat and
9 started in 1993 after conversations with
10 the Planning Department and Public Works.
11 The -- their statement at that time was
12 that if the Bypass were ever built it
13 would be built way east of us and would
14 not affect us, so we went ahead, and we
15 built our house.
16 We moved in in late 1994. Ever
17 since we moved in, we've been dealing
18 with this. We've put off improvements.
19 I've got a front porch that's only half
20 built, and I've got to be honest. Part
21 of the motivation -- lack of motivation
22 to finish that project is that I think it
23 might be more valid to put a gas pump,
24 you know, somewhere and -- and start
25 doing that.
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1 It's just not fair to have people
2 make plans based on the best information
3 they can get from the City offices that
4 are responsible for -- for providing that
5 information and then turn around two
6 years later and pull the rug out from
7 under them. I just don't think it's
8 right. I don't think that it promotes an
9 image that the City of Lincoln should be
10 trying to promote. I think we should be
11 able to trust our city leaders and know
12 that when they say something it's -- you
13 can count on it. Good night.
14 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
15 So -- do you have anything else to add at
16 this time?
17 JOHN BECK: No, I don't.
18 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
19 Well --
20 JOHN BECK: So --
21 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: And I've
22 received your -- your written comments
23 and appreciate --
24 JOHN BECK: Excellent.
25 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: -- that.
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1 JOHN BECK: And what was your name
2 again?
3 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: I'm Paul
4 Ladehoff.
5 JOHN BECK: And you're with the City
6 or with --
7 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: I'm
8 with --
9 JOHN BECK: -- HWS?
10 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: -- The
11 Mediation Center. We're private
12 nonprofit --
13 JOHN BECK: I see.
14 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: -- and so
15 we're not connected with the -- HWS or
16 the City in terms of this. We're neutral
17 just here to help people --
18 JOHN BECK: Just paid to sit here
19 and loosen your tie.
20 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: That's
21 right. And we appreciate your coming in
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23 JOHN BECK: Thank you very much.
24 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: -- and
25 sharing your thoughts.
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1 JOHN BECK: And thank you very much.
2 THE COURT REPORTER: Thank you.
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1 (At 6:28 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness Nancy Beck, and
3 the court reporter being present, the following
4 testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Then
6 let's go on the record. Any time you're
7 ready to start.
8 NANCY BECK: I thought I'd start
9 with a little history which you may have
10 heard. We bought our land in 1986 and
11 did go to the Planning Commission and saw
12 "beltway" in the plan and inquired as to
13 where the Beltway may be going, and they
14 said it wasn't in the plan, so we
15 purchased five acres. In 1993 we decided
16 to dig a hole and start to build our
17 house 'cause we had planted trees and
18 wanted to let them grow. So John went
19 back to the Planning Commission and said
20 "What about the Beltway?" And they said,
21 "It's not in the plan," not to worry.
22 So we broke ground in '93. We moved
23 in '96, and six months after we moved in,
24 we got a flier saying "There are three
25 proposed plans for the Beltway. One of
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1 those plans is 104 and Holdrege." So our
2 concern was we had tried to do everything
3 correctly, you know, determine where our
4 land should be, find out if there was
5 anything that might be impacting our
6 land, and were told again and again not
7 to worry, that it was fine until, of
8 course, we had moved in, and then, you
9 know, guess what? "This may be
10 happening."
11 I attended several meetings a couple
12 years ago, and at one point someone from
13 HMS (sic.) said "We have driven up and
14 down Highway 2, and there are some very
15 large, beautiful homes that have gone up
16 along Highway 2, so putting in a beltway
17 probably won't impact your property."
18 And I said, you know, "Excuse me. You
19 are comparing apples and oranges. People
20 who are building beautiful houses along
21 Highway 2 know they're building beautiful
22 houses along Highway 2. We bought five
23 acres in the country. We built a
24 beautiful home because we wanted to be
25 out where it's quiet without a lot -- a
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2 can't say that, you know, you can compare
3 those two things." And he said, "Well,
4 I -- I guess you're right," but until
5 maybe somebody questions it, it's okay.
6 I did go to the Comprehensive Plan
7 Workshops --
8 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
9 NANCY BECK: -- last week, and I was
10 reading all their information, and
11 according to the plans, they are
12 looking -- their planning area goes all
13 the way to 134th Street, so I am assuming
14 that the City is planning at some point
15 to be incorporated all the way out to
16 134th Street. So if there is going to be
17 a beltway, and if a beltway is a system
18 that gets you around the City, one would
19 think it should be beyond 134th Street in
20 order to serve the purpose it might have
21 been intended.
22 Another piece of information they
23 shared last week at the Comprehensive
24 Plan Workshop was they are looking at
25 traffic problems within the City of
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1 Lincoln. And I know they often say that
2 a beltway would alleviate internal
3 traffic problems which is not true, and
4 according to one of their fliers that
5 they had posted when they listed the
6 different plans for transportation, it
7 said that a beltway was the most costly
8 method to improve the transportation
9 system and that it would have limited
10 impact on internal traffic. So if
11 they're thinking that somebody who wants
12 to go from 27th Street to 70th Street is
13 going to go via even 104th on a beltway,
14 that's probably not the case.
15 So if a beltway indeed needs to be
16 built, I would think it should be out at
17 the edge of whatever our community might
18 be in 2025 which, I believe, is what
19 they're planning for right now. So 104th
20 Street would put it in town. You know,
21 the 120th would put it in town. If
22 you've got to have a beltway, which I am
23 not convinced, it should go as far out as
24 humanly possible indeed to make it a
25 beltway. So I was glad I went to those
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1 worksheets (sic.). They were very nice,
2 very informative. And I guess that's it.
3 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
4 NANCY BECK: I wasn't anywhere close
5 to seven minutes.
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1 (At 6:34 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness William Speidel,
3 and the court reporter being present, the
4 following testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Then
6 let's go on the record. Any time you're
7 ready to start.
8 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: Don't think that
9 this -- any of these will really be -- be
10 too much of a problem 'cause by -- I
11 think by the time it's -- that it will be
12 built we'll be gone, so --
13 PHYLLIS SPEIDEL: We're in a nursing
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15 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: But I've --
16 we've -- we've been -- I've -- we have
17 farmed on the farm at 98th and Pioneers.
18 We've lived there fifty-six years now,
19 and I had a dairy herd there for many
20 years and now, I've -- I -- I don't farm
21 anymore. I seeded -- seeded most of it
22 down now, so -- I still take the seed off
23 of it, and that's about the only thing in
24 farming that I -- I take -- take the
25 grass seed off.
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1 I think the thing that probably
2 bothers me most of -- about this is that
3 the farther out -- just like the lady
4 that spoke just before me said. I think
5 she -- that -- that -- that's kind of my
6 intentions of what I'd be in favor of,
7 the next one, the middle one. Even
8 the -- like I say, the closest one -- it
9 would be -- it would be -- it wouldn't be
10 on our farm. It would be just across the
11 fence, but I think there's -- they
12 have -- at least we've heard this, that
13 there will be a -- a big -- where you get
14 on the Belt -- the Beltway there on
15 Pioneers and would really increase the
16 traffic there, of course, but as I said,
17 we probably won't be here to -- to -- to
18 gripe about it.
19 But anyway, we -- we have been to a
20 lot of -- in foreign countries, and we've
21 been probably all over Europe, and the
22 ones that I've seen this type of highways
23 or beltways -- Paris has a great --
24 really a great one. London has a great
25 one, and they're all a long ways out.
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1 And I think it's -- it's making it easier
2 for people to get across town maybe, but
3 they're not moving them probably to go to
4 work as much. And some other towns in
5 Germany -- Berlin has got -- got a large
6 one there, and -- and it's -- I think
7 it's something that -- I -- with a
8 population of -- of 220 or whatever
9 Lincoln is now, it -- it shouldn't need
10 this type of a thing yet, I don't think.
11 I think the one on the west side and
12 on the south side -- people are still
13 going -- if they're going to get onto
14 the -- I-80, which they would probably be
15 doing and only if they were going to
16 Omaha or east, would they even use the --
17 go on the south and the -- and to the --
18 the one west of Lincoln and -- and beyond
19 the -- you know, on the -- of 81 (sic.)
20 then?
21 But I just feel that these -- as far
22 as what I've learned so far, that -- it
23 seems to me like it's going to be -- on
24 the East Bypass it would be at least
25 fifteen years, and I don't know why
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1 Lincoln didn't take ahold of this thing
2 and -- when they -- they still don't have
3 Highway 84 four lanes all the way
4 through --
5 PHYLLIS SPEIDEL: Not highway.
6 Street.
7 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: What?
8 PHYLLIS SPEIDEL: 84th Street.
9 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: 84th Street, yeah.
10 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
11 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: Excuse me.
12 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
13 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: I'm sorry. And
14 just -- and 70th -- they still don't have
15 that -- it goes clear -- they've got it
16 partway but not all the way, but 80 --
17 84th is -- I don't understand why they're
18 just plugging away. And they do about
19 a -- started about two years ago, and
20 they -- they've got about a -- a mile and
21 a half extension now there, but that
22 should have been done a long time ago,
23 and -- because I think you're going to --
24 if they open up the Stevens Creek area,
25 why -- I mean for -- so it will be -- it
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1 will -- it will -- Lincoln will move in
2 there as soon as they get a -- a new
3 sewage plant out on about Cornhusker
4 Highway and Stevens Creek. And I guess
5 probably about -- you can about guess
6 that's where -- where it would be, but
7 that will fill in just so quick that you
8 won't -- if -- if you don't get out as
9 far as you can, why, you're going to be
10 right in the City.
11 If they would have done it like
12 Omaha did and put it right down through
13 the middle to begin with -- I think that
14 works pretty good in Omaha, and I don't
15 know why -- but I think -- they -- they
16 think they need something more than they
17 really need. And that's about all I have
18 to say to that.
19 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
20 WILLIAM SPEIDEL: Thank you.
21 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Thank
22 you, Mr. Speidel.
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1 (At 6:47 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness Lyn Wineman, and
3 the court reporter being present, the following
4 testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Any time
6 you're ready, unless you have any
7 questions.
8 LYN WINEMAN: Great. Okay. My name
9 is Lyn Wineman. My husband, Neil, and I
10 live at 3005 South 138th Street in
11 Historic Stevens Creek Stock Farm. And
12 for the record, while we feel it's nice
13 to have this opportunity to gather
14 information and comment on the Draft
15 Environmental Impact Study, we believe
16 the setting does not represent a
17 meaningful public hearing, and we were
18 expecting to have the ability to share
19 our views and hear the views of others
20 regarding this important issue. We,
21 therefore, respectively request a public
22 hearing before the comment time for this
23 process is over on May 14th.
24 We have found numerous and
25 substantial errors and omissions in the
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2 be submitting those comments to Federal
3 Highways in writing prior to the
4 deadline.
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
6 Thank you.
7 LYN WINEMAN: All right. Thank you.
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1 (At 7:30 p.m. on April 23, 2001, with
2 Hearing Officer Ladehoff, Witness Ken Reitan, and
3 the court reporter being present, the following
4 testimony was given:)
5 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Any time
6 you're ready to begin.
7 KEN REITAN: Yeah. I'm here to
8 express my opposition to beltways in
9 general. I think Lincoln should take a
10 serious look at the experience that
11 Atlanta, Georgia has had with beltways
12 and serious sprawl and traffic problems
13 that have resulted. Make no mistake
14 about it. Beltways create new sprawl and
15 generate new traffic. Atlanta's
16 situation has become so serious that they
17 are having ongoing legal problems with
18 the federal government over air quality.
19 In the next few years as the global
20 warming debate heats up, it's anyone's
21 guess what kinds of growth and road
22 construction restrictions will come down
23 from the federal government. Lincoln can
24 be better prepared for that type of
25 future by choosing smarter types of
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2 statement.
3 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Do you --
4 do you have examples maybe of what types
5 of growth you mean?
6 KEN REITAN: Well, I guess -- I
7 guess I would like -- if we're going to
8 spend lots of money on road construction,
9 I'd like to see it spent on the interior
10 streets of Lincoln 'cause I -- I just
11 don't think that these beltways are going
12 to solve a lot of the -- a lot of the
13 traffic problems. We're still going to
14 have lots of frustrated motorists 'cause
15 these beltways are going to be out there
16 quite a ways. You know, they're not
17 going -- you're not going to save time by
18 going way out to the -- you know, several
19 miles out in the country if you've just
20 got to go across town five, six miles.
21 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
22 KEN REITAN: You know, I mean that's
23 all -- I -- I drive six miles to work.
24 I'm not -- not about to -- to go out to
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1 well, I live around Old Cheney Road and
2 go up to East Campus University. I'm not
3 going to use one of those beltways.
4 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Uh-huh.
5 KEN REITAN: And -- and I just think
6 that the vast majority of people aren't
7 going to use them. There will be some,
8 certainly. Truckers will use them.
9 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Okay.
10 Anything else?
11 KEN REITAN: So I added a little
12 extra there, I guess.
13 HEARING OFFICER LADEHOFF: Thank you
14 for coming in tonight.
15 KEN REITAN: Sure.
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1 C E R T I F I C A T E
2 I, Jody J. White, Registered Professional
3 Reporter, do hereby certify that the within and
4 following complete transcript contains all the
5 testimony requested to be transcribed by me and
6 the comments of the hearing officer, from the
7 public hearing held in this matter; and that said
8 complete transcript is a correct and complete
9 transcript of the testimony requested to be
10 transcribed from the record made at the time of
11 said public hearings.
12 Dated this 26th day of April, 2001.
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16 Jody J. White
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