Good afternoon and good morning to those on the West and welcome to the Talking Freight seminar series.
My name is Jennifer Symoun, and I will be moderating this seminar.
Today's topic is America's Marine Highways. Please be advised that today's seminar is being recorded.
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Today will have two presenters, Lauren Brand of the Maritime Administration and Barbara Nelson of the Richmond Virginia MPO.
Lauren Brand is the director for the Office of Marine Highway and Passenger Vessels for the Maritime Administration, part of the US Department of Transportation. In this role she is responsible for carrying out MARAD's missions to improve and strengthen the US marine transportation system to meet the economic and security needs of this nation. Prior to this, she was a South-Atlantic Gateway Director for MARAD.
Barbara Nelson is a principal transportation planner for the Richmond MPO. She has been in this position for just over five years with an additional 20 years of planning experience.
Her responsibilities at the Richmond Area MPO include transportation improvement program manager, project manager for the 64 Express, and responsible for managing the following programs: intermodal, bicycles, pedestrian, and citizen outreach.
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Our first prisoner is Lauren Brand of the maritime administration.
With that I am going to bring up Lawrence presentation.
Thank you Jennifer.
There has been a lot happening and I am seeing some people sign in looking at the names I see people I recognize,
I see France for the program
and for those of you who have seen parts of the presentation before I apologize but I guarantee there is new
information here today. We are going to split this into part a and part B.
and we will have a bar but no send in the middle.
This program is pretty new and was just established in 2007 by the energy Independence and security act
and there has been a whole bunch of legal things that have to happen.
The slide shows an overview of what has been going on.
Probably the most important document that you may want to access for future reference is the final rule that was
published on April 9 on April 9, 2000 on April 9, 2010 -- defining the program, defining projects,
explains how to apply for a project and how to apply for a quarter. These applications are still open
and being welcomed in project applications,
we will have another call for them later this summer in the criteria will be very similar to what is in the final rule.
At the end today they will be my contact info so few have trouble finding it
or you just want me to send it to you -- [ Background Noise ] --.
What are we talking about? What is so exciting that happened in 2007?
Congress passed legislation making our nation's waterways part of the surface transportation system.
This really isn't a new concept.
The nation is moving spy water tremendously before the highway system was developed but in the 70s the water use
started to decline. And read it -- used the realm network more.
This is a map that was on the merit website as of July 2010 had at the time it was entitled America's Murray
and highways and basically it was a map of the United States but they say flattery is a real compliment -- .
We received quite a few applications, over 96 recommendations, a lot were duplicates
and some are just partial waterways so we put them together in an August 2010 secretary of transportation designated
these areas as America's marine and corridors .
So the court orders are mostly coastal and in some of the major LM of waterways.
These parallel the congested -- [ Background Noise ] -- Designated a project.
These were, you consider all clustered use of the Mississippi in the Northeast of the United States.
We received -- reviewed all of them and ranked them against the criteria and nominated these aides
and the secretary agreed.
-- Transit, of course Maritime administration and OST. We had environmental
and economic policy people on the team as well. So the applications were very poorly analyzed.
And read our -- last year we had $7 million in grant funds awarded to the program right should say we were allowed to
distribute and only a few were designated. The grants went to the M. 64 in Virginia
and they're going to be expanding their service, they had an existing service, the 10 Tom is on the goes north
and south and that is a brand-new service that will be between mobile Alabama and in a wall to Mississippi.
The -- we also awarded funds for three studies to look at three main waterways.
And that is along the East Coast on and 95, the West Coast on M5 and then and 55 is the Mississippi River.
What we have proposed were project,
we received applications on those waterways but those projects were not fully developed to the point where they
actually ready to start or expand the service but they had some good ideas and suggestions.
They may have been missing one element that we needed to confirm the project,
and made a been -- may have been accosted a -- these cooperative agreements will be working on these three main
waterways with the quarter sponsors and that designated initiative sponsors to identifying those missing links.
And then see what we can do to bring services to gather.
In November 2010 we took a capture of the existing Murray
and -- marine been --- why does it look like the quarter with no service on it?
The highway program focuses on containers and trailer eyes freight and the movement of passengers.
There is no regularly scheduled container or passenger service on the Mississippi,
we do count cruising as passenger service.
You can see the dark lines and where they are and keep us in your mind, look at the dark blue line
and look at how many more there are. Based on the applications we received per project,
based on the people that have come to visit since November 2010,
they saw the presentations we made the generated discussions
and activities were taking now we believe within five years we can have active regular schedule services in all of
these areas around the country. We are working to make it happen.
We had the funding last year
and we are moving forward with those programs that receive funding but we're working on other things as well that are
not funding related to recall those are other resources.
-- To take 10 nonmonetary related supported actions that we could do to help the program in the country.
These are some of the agencies and actions that we are looking at,
we are working with federal highway on a discretionary grant program, the Detroit Windsor Murray
and project that was received a grant, we are working -- and now has a marine been highway grant .
We're working with some grant programs with Tiger where we're getting funds
and I will talk more about that a little bit.
We are reaching out for some planning grants opportunities for some folks,
there is a very project that is being proposed
and we have been helping to steer them to some different ideas to look first at -- for assistance
and get their project move forward. We're working with the Department of Defense
and I will talk more about that in a different slide
and we have identified some areas in Pima that could help support green highway initiatives.
There are security grants have been given out for about nine years
and two continue this program they could provide some security.
Perhaps her mitigation we are looking at -- that move through congested metropolitan areas that could possibly be
routed for part of their trip on a marine been highway .
We are just exploring that possibility right now.
How does this really work? And this is where and when to turn it over to Barbara Nelson .
Are they take about 15 minutes and share information about the 64 express.
-- Joe Montana December 2008 when the economy was declining.
It was a really tough time to introduce a new initiative by the good news is that although -- continues to grow
and we are positioning the service for expansion. My planning background is varied and extensive over 25 years,
Mike spent in the ports and goods --
and if there is another young the webcast was not the mayor with the great work that is being done by the I-95
and the work they have done with merit over the past views to note -- please know they are natural resources you
should check them out
and my participation in the Academy in 2008 continues to be a solid foundation on which I have been building my
knowledge and understanding of automoto connection.
Jumping into the 64 express you can see on the screen we have a picture of our barge as well as a map showing the
distance from the Hampton Roads area of Virginia of the James River to Richmond which the Port Richmond is about 100
not all miles in length. Taken as Richmond with Virginia's international gateway
and the ports of Virginia our current service weekly --.
We have throughout the past two years run more regularly than once a week as demand for the service dictated however
it is at a minimum a weekly call service. We anticipate expanding the service to two
or three times a week as well as introducing it in her terminal barge service.
Your service is available as the service has a strong relationship with the trucking industry
and we do consider this to be the service to be transit for cargo.
The Interstate 64 quarter was designated as a marine been highway and selected as an age in May project.
-- In the second barge for service expansion, we will be using the purchase of the barges
or the purpose of requiring the barges is to capitalize current operational cost and reducing the cost per box.
As cargo moves,
as international cargo heading it is important for everybody to have an understanding of our relationship with BPA
and Virginia's gateway to the global market. I went to move quickly through the next few slides in
and focus on our project. Jennifer if you can click through this.
We all want her route from Asia to the Port of Virginia whether you go buy a way of the Panama Canal
or the Suez Canal is nearly equal, it is just over 6% increase in one distance by choosing one route over the other.
The Port of Virginia is well-positioned to the markets of South America and Western Europe.
The Port of Virginia as I mentioned earlier we consider to be Virginia's international gateway.
There are currently for existing Murray and terminals -- marine been terminals.
-- In the APM terminal which was acquired through a long-term lease agreement in July of 2000 and.
The current channel depth in the Hampton Roads area is 50 feet in there on Dr.
Wells -- in the Port of Virginia is within a day straight of nearly 2/3 of the US population.
The mode split for cargoes is currently exceed 6% by truck, 30 some -- 30% by row -- .
As you can see perhaps by comparison in the two slides, this is a Telugu ports. The multiple Murray
and terminals in Hampton Roads
and their inland roads making up a large mix of terminals within the Virginia Port Authority system.
Compared to the Port of Richmond again 100 miles in length it is about 120 acres located just below the fall line of
the gems server and our draft is 22 feet. -- Along the James do make barging an ideal market opportunity.
With those slides as background I would like to explain the dynamics of why this project has
and will continue to be supported by region.
We have had many excellent partners including -- federal highways in the two key partners for this project would not
be a success without is Jeff Huber with the Virginia Port Authority.
Nearly $4 million and
Over three years and we anticipate -- over the coming year we will also be developing a Port opportunities
and where will concentrate or infrastructure development investment.
Barrett three -- there are three key reasons -- from Hampton Roads up to the Junior and one is system performance.
The transportation system and I 64 quarter is highly congested
and there've been several studies anticipating the expansion of the quarter, all of which have significant price tax.
We see the barge alternative for the -- as an opportunity mitigate congestion
and system capacity constraint associated with an increased demand for import and export.
There is also a system maintenance issue.
And Virginia nearly $200 million in damage is done annually to the road network associated with overweight cargoes
and when we evaluate that against the permit fees, charged by
or the fees received it to offset those overweight cargo and packs there is a significant d.
We believe that by allowing cargoes to move on water which is you can load the barge heavy
and it won't compromise the system, will have a certificate impact on reducing maintenance costs over time.
We also see economic opportunity within our region for warehouse education
and related industries as well as environmental benefits. The nitric has a -- oxide
and other organic compounds which join together to form or are the precursors to those on our region
or a trigger for our bad air days.
In the barge hands down beat any other congestion mitigation project that we have considered and supported in the past.
This particular slide shows a selected distribution facility is using the Port of Virginia.
The significance of this light to the current
and program expansion of the 64 express is tied to them for export balance and joy to buy Virginia's diverse economy.
If you drop a box to return to a candy loaded on the barge go down the river to Hampton Roads while you're there you
pick up your empty in return. You are reducing the total BMT and I 64 quarter as well as reducing wear
and tear in the fuel savings is approximately 65 to 70 gallons per round trip between Richmond and Hampton Road.
In this past session some legislation was approved by our General.
assembly which grants an income tax credit for usage of the barge and rail, cargo that Mr.
Virginia on the barge or her route rather than by truck or other motor vehicle.
And there is a $50 credit per TE you which begins with the taxable year beginning January 2011
and we see this as a significant commitment on part of the Commonwealth of Virginia to support the barge
and the opportunity and the alternative of barging as a component of the surface transportation,
the surface transportation system. The map that is up,
you can see the opportunity for many distribution facilities around Virginia that can drop a box in Richmond
and they can be loaded on the barge and downriver it goes. In the same for the box coming up the river.
We think this really does present an exciting opportunity and we are very grateful that the General.
assembly has made this commitment. In conclusion,
I put the contact information for the project partners without him this project would not be possible
and it certainly wouldn't be enjoying the success is that it has today.
We are currently moving over 160 containers a week from the 64 quarter
and anticipate within several months to be moving as many as 300 containers per week.
I'll be glad to answer the questions as we move to the presentation.
We are now going to go back to Lauren Brand to wrap up with a final presentation.
So what else is the program doing in addition to supporting and helping to develop new services
and expand existing services? We are doing some other things to try to round up the program
and expand the impact of the program.
We are working with the Navy whether a patient alleges its process on a dual use study.
Right now, the Navy is looking at ways to maximize the use of their
and they are extremely vested in a commercial vessel -- a certain percentage of those commercial vessels could be put
into service for the military. And then returned a commercial service in their ways to make it work,
we are looking at policy and practice and we're looking at vessel requirements.
So the Maritime administration is doing a study right now in the Navy is doing a study parallel to their military
needs in the sizes and the facilities they would go to an infrastructure that is available
and then we will be marrying the two studies to come out a joint report. The lead agency, --
and we are working with the energy commerce
and agriculture to look at how to maximize the benefits of the Missouri River for navigation.
This is a $2 million study in our first in her agency meeting is actually the last Monday of this month so we are
pretty excited to get the commitments from the other departments to work with us on us.
The report should be issued in 2012. Will be working very closely with the Missouri DOT
and the stakeholders on that as well.
We were involved in the Tiger grants in two Tiger grants in 2009 received every structure funds to help with the
purchase of vessels, equipment such as cranes, and I was Tiger one,
and then in Tiger today were given money to build a terminal and extend a bit of a berth in Florida.
So Tiger funds are being used for infrastructure to vomit related to supporting marine and highways.
Maritime administration has 10 regional offices and if you're not aware of it here is a map of where they are located.
A lot of times we get somebody request
and headquarters for information that we think it is important for a person to get some human touch so we are working
closely with our regional offices and they're reaching out having meetings in gathering information
and working with people, and helping them to apply for projects and develop projects even without the designation.
There is an organization called marine then highway cooperative
and they are developing an online calculator that will come out next month. It is a planning tool
and it is going to measure items such as carbon, fuel savings, noise reduction, other air emissions,
there are five other element -- there are five elements. It is really good
and the consultant is bring it together for the cooperative is 80, and it is their European arm that is doing that.
-- So we're pretty excited about this coming out and it will be available at no charge
and it should be pretty well advertised when it comes out.
If your interest in this as a planning tool you like to see how adding him Maritime Academy could impact your public
benefit give us a shout and we'll give you the link to once it is available.
-- That is going to be a subcommittee of the Marine transportation Board. It is being established right now.
We had about 125 people to be on the board and that was pretty exciting. The applicants were comprised of shippers,
carriers, as well as Port Authority people, state DOT representatives,
and the committee that is being recommended will have members on it representing all different aspects.
The committee's purpose is to identify
and seek solutions to things that hinder the use of the growth of short sea transportation.
There is also a North American steering committee and that was established in 2003.
The members are the Maritime administration, transport Canada, and Mexico's secretary of two medications and transport.
This group's goal to help grow surety transportation services between the three nations in this January met in
Washington and we came up with a five-year plan.
One of the big items in our plan is to identify congested border crossings
and help develop short season of a suspected supplement those border crossings.
What else are we doing? This year we are working to advance designated projects, supporting designated initiative is ,
and trying to help them fill in the blanks of a could apply for project status when it comes on the summer.
We are accepting quarter applications all the time and we got one so far the share
and we have gotten two calls that there are two others the people are proposing.
We're expecting the dual bustle report to be issued. In the next year we will be designating new projects,
and will be completing these supplemental Missouri River study.
Unfortunately there is no grant funds authorized for fiscal year 2011 or 2012 at this time.
We are constantly doing outreach,
here is a list of some of the larger meetings that we are going to do what we are organizing.
Not on this list around tables and we are working with a number of communities to put together roundtables
and I would be where your local community stakeholders who could influence the development, creation,
or expansion of a Murray and highway service -- the opportunities for your region in what regions you connect with.
What do you need to get a service started or expanded?
And whether it is greater passenger, we are happy to talk about either or both.
At the table for these we are inviting state DOT's, MPS, terminal operators, carriers which would include trucks,
shippers are invited, beckon him and development commission, and chambers of commerce.
So anyone who could influence the process or the region are sitting down together and talking.
We have held to so far and there has been action items that have resulted from both and we have some on the plans.
Severe are interested in combat that give us a call.
This is just a partial list of some of the people that we've been talking to
and I prepared the site in November so there is market at the now but the fun would get so tiny you can read anything.
Our goal is to make Maritime a return -- routine part of transportation planning so we are challenging you on what you
can do to help make this a routine item. Here is our contact information, we have a website that is to be updated
and we are working on that now. And then there is my contact info as well and I am very responsive to e-mail.
Thank you. We will move onto the question-and-answer session now and go to the folks online
and then we will probably have time to open the phone lines as well.
I think the first question is for Lauren but everybody please type in -- continue typing your questions.
Is it anticipated that the marine then program will be funded at a level of are even the same level as the federal
That is a real dream. No it is not anticipated, I am speechless I do not know what to say. I wish that would happen.
All we have for funding so far as the $7 million grant in fiscal 2010
and as I said before there is nothing else on the books at this time.
There eligible for CMAS the funding
and of their other infrastructure programs coming on the future that is old well for those programs,
they are our EPA grants that we filed help with engines and overhaul
and replacement so we are trying to search all the federal programs to see what our program applies for
and helps to apply for those programs. We have even received some economic moment grants for infrastructure.
So we are trying to pass those out but specific Murray and highway program does not have funding at this time.
What are the three projects Thursday the grant award have gone out of business? What will happen to those funds?
There is a misconception about that. None of the grants were worried to private companies.
All of the grants went to public entities in this last year they all and that would support authority. The Murray
and highway grant went to -- advantage Florida
and the sports campus as soon as they found out the service was going to terminate, unfortunately
and this is not anything private this was in the media, the company was undercapitalized and they couldn't keep going.
The two port scan to resume presented us with a plan for moving forward
and we're giving them some time to adopt a plan and I believe an RCP will be going out to attract a new service
and we know for a fact that they have been contacted by a 10 different qualifying carriers.
So we're looking forward to them coming forward and they have a timeframe to meet to get a new service in place
and to meet the spirit of the grant which is to expand the service so they have to expand what was there before
and they just can't start anew and to get funds.
If the funds are not met, if the criteria is not met those funds go back to the general treasury.
The first is the of estimates on how many passengers could be added in the next few years?
No I don't unfortunately the majority of questions we get is on the freight side
and there is actually for passenger projects around the country that I can think of
and they range from moving less than 100 people at time to over 300 people at a time with multiple service of the day.
Is very high speed barrier or ship they could take the place?
Get so does have to be in the right region of the company
and they would have to have the right passenger can in order to cover the operating costs.
Has the Houston Gateway office than that?
Know it has not understand the job will be posted on USA jobs.com in the near future.
New prostate --
Guess there will be a project is a nation called but we don't have a date yet but it will be in the summer
and it will be on the Federal Register.
Could you talk more about the other's misery Gateway, --?
Unfortunately the Missouri upper Gateway office,
there -- the gentleman who was the director passed away just before Christmas and that job will be posted on USA jobs.
com in the near future.
Wyoming has not been on my radar screen by nine going to go back to my office and look at it
and if you have ideas please send me an e-mail to Lauren.brand ideas he got up and let's talk about it.
Which is providing the support to the Missouri DOT for the inventorying of their assets on the water
and for some other things, and we are to have a connection with your firm
and we have got them down as technical subject matter experts on our list of people we are putting together to work
So the study will have an RSVP and I don't want to give you
and them are permission at this time because it will gave you an unfair damage.
The clean diesel programs -- of interplay's men in power and retrofit and take you to Abbey for posting a link there.
You made reference to three meetings, you said that 200 and held can you provide a link?
I apologize if I gave some of the misinformation.
The three workshops have not been held, they are being held -- planned and organized at this time
and we will announce when they are taking place. The two that ever even held our roundtables,
one was held over a year ago and trials and
and I'm trying to think of what the other one was but there is one being planned right now for Brownsville Texas
and we're talking that being one of the Troy. So third at two different animals.
And we will try to put those on the website. We will get that out to Carol and try to get it issued it.
We can add them as calendar items our website as well. People can go there and check it will get them posted for you.
Pity talk more about the proposed border area short sea shipping area?
Can you talk a little bit more about what you want to know because I could talk for hours about those.
The Mac --
Going back to the question about the Missouri River study, I guess, --
Note is not a continuation of the study, uses for state and we are doing one for Congress.
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Here's another question.
For the benefit calculator have you asked her contractor to work with the ETA office of transportation and air quality?
Know we have gotten data from them but we are not working directly with them.
Was specific classes and what is the example of the water shut shareholders be mostly container cargo?
What we are looking is that the four are congested
and they could be supplemented with short sea services so we are looking at the Gulf of Mexico specifically the Texas
Mexico border. Perhaps something that might go through Veracruz to any of the US ports in the Gulf,
we are looking at the Great Lakes and the St.
Lawrence Speedway, the Ambassador.
Bridge is the most congested border crossing between the US and Canada and there is a hazmat truck.
It operates but there is not a passenger service.
So we're looking -- Port Authority and their counterpart at the port of ones or to develop a passenger ferry
and as I said before that is one that has received at discretionary program from federal highway.
They have identified some customers that live in Canada like 6000 passengers the living Canada
and actually work on the US side. We could take that many cars off the road.
And while we are adjusting with the short sea group as we're talking a transport Canada
and saying let's make sure that the structure on both sides of the border is capable of handling the slow,
the new traffic patterns that would result from this.
So the above 6000 passengers you want to make sure they are going through a two Road residential area to park their
cars to get to the waterfront. You
and make sure that the roads are adequate in the parking lot is adequate next to the port that has the facility.
We are also looking at San Diego and Southern California and the border crossing mayor with Mexico
and I cannot River the name of the port -- and we have met with a committee of San Diego
and we will be working with the Government of Canada to get the two parties together to see if there's some interest
in developing a service there. So those are the types of things we're looking at.
Do you anticipate that the short sea services will be self-sustaining financially?
They have to be in the long run. If the market cannot support them then they just won't continue.
It works in a lot of parts of the world, we believe that it is going to need some assistance in terms of funding
and other non-funding support to get pilot projects off because you are changing the trade patterns but the market
really has to show that this will be self-sustaining in the long run.
And some people merriment heard me say this before, my dad was one of the first truckers to put a truck on Route car.
Back when he was -- when I was a kid it was pretty unique
and he was laughed at for doing it but now that is a normal way to ship things so I really don't see where we cannot
make this work.
If we look at the public benefit provided by including Marine Highway as an option for service transportation
and including it in and are modal planning were make sense then it will become sustainable.
What is the status of the California marine then highway project?
That is really exciting and they're putting up the bids for the cranes and ever to put out the bids
or they are developing a good project for their barge. We're really excited about that one.
That is where three ports used to compete with you.-- each other and then actually got together
and said they are in one region and this is what we do
and if we work together we could start a service between the port of Stockton, West Sacramento, and Oakland
and they identified the freight that is moving in the region and the public benefits of adding a marine then highway
service , and they are working together now inserted against each other.
What role do you see for the MPO ?
I've really got a lot of education from Barb.The MPO , first I am asking if you are doing great
and passenger training on Enomoty basis are you working -- which the majority of the MPS are doing
and if they do not buy in this process and it won't work because without that distance planning for the region,
if the connection cannot be made. So to me you have one of the key roles,
you have a feed at every table for every meeting.
In Virginia are in PO enrichment is working closely with the Hampton Roads to do which includes there in PO.
As well as the MPO in the North looking at the freight flows within our micro region which has well no freight moves
at a much larger regional scalethan MPO regions but we are looking closely at the dynamics of the movement of freight
within and between our various MPS.
Where we are looking at making sure we program the transportation improvement in a timely manner to meet the needs to
support free movement in Virginia
and we try to coordinate with our state do TNI think they're doing a good job of reaching out to the MPL
and trying to encourage more MPO engagement in the freight movement area. And I think at the MPO level ,
that is where the implementation perhaps of some of these programs will occur that you can have perhaps great vision
but the actual implementation where it is going to take place on the ground is going to perhaps be at the MPO level
and coordination between MPO will be very important in the future.
Could you get is a copy of the income tax credit legislation so we could take a look at it?
I am curious to see how that gets applied and how the shippers receive it and how they apply for it.
I will send the information to you Tony as well as to Jennifer so it can be embedded in the links for the webcast.
Thank you. I do not see any other questions typed in at the moment, so I guess we will go ahead
and close out for the day although why meeting these last remarks if you see -- I want to thank you Lauren
and Barb for great presentations.
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