DBE UPDATE
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DBE UPDATE
Birmingham, August 2009
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HOUSE HEARING
• March 2009, House T&I
• Purpose was to put before Congress
evidence of continuing compelling need for
DBE program
• Idea, in part, is to head off Rothe-style
attacks
• DOT statistical evidence, disparity studies,
testimony from DBEs
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H.R. 915
• House-passed FAA reauthorization bill
• Senate currently working on its version
• Includes findings of continuing need for DBE
program
• Several program changes: PNW inflation
adjustment, retirement accounts, training
• Doesn't directly address interstate certification
• House surface bill likely to include similar
features
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DOT NPRM
• Proposed 3-year rather than annual goal
submission and review for Part 26
• About 30 comments
• Most favored longer cycle (reduced
burdens), but want opportunity to adjust
• Some opposition (not flexible enough to
respond to market or grant changes)
• Next step - draft final rule
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DOT ANPRM
• Asked for comment on 6 issues, most
resulting from stakeholder meetings
• Around 30 comments
• Next stage - NPRM asking for comment
on specific proposals
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COUNTING ISSUE
• Issue concerns whether to count as DBE
participation stuff a DBE sub obtains from the
prime contractor on a project. Current reg says
no.
• Comments were varied: some want to maintain
status quo, some want state to be able to make
exceptions some want to count stuff obtained
from prime, others want nothing from third-party
sources to count
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UNBUNDLING
• Concept is to break up large contracts into bite-size chunks small firms, including DBEs, can do.
• Everybody thinks this would be a good thing to
do, few think it is practical
• Most commenters said leave to state discretion
• Some specific proposals for regulatory
requirements (e.g., require for a certain contract
size, provide incentives for unbundling)
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FORMS
• Widespread support for rewrite of PNW
and, to a lesser extent, application forms
• Many specific, detailed suggestions for
modifying forms, Including a couple model
forms that people sent in
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INTERSTATE CERTIFICATION
• Issue is how to facilitate certification in State B of
firm certified in State A, while maintaining
program integrity
• Big issue for DBE community
• Barriers are the 3 Ts - training, trust, and turf
• DOT took big step in 1999 by requiring UCPs for
one stop shopping within each state
• ANPRM asked what next steps should be
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INTERSTATE CERTIFICATION (2)
• Majority of commenters favored some sort of
reciprocity
• Some of these wanted pure reciprocity
• Others would allow post-certification review by
State B for fraud or other reasons
• A few comments supported "Federalizing"
certification or a national DBE data base
• Some comments opposed reciprocity: wanted to
maintain local control or to wait until there was
better nationwide training
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INTERSTATE CERTIFICATION (3)
• Some states preferred simply to make own
decisions based on documentation
provided by State A
• Widespread support for uniform national
training
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OVERSIGHT
• Commenters had very different ideas
about what sort of oversight was needed
• Most recipients commenting wanted more
DOT $ if DOT wanted more oversight
• Some commenters thought things were
fine as is
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T for C
• Current rule says if prime wants to dump DBE
sub it signed up to meet goal for other than good
cause, and self-perform work, then prime needs
written consent from recipient
• ANPRM asked if same rule should apply any
time prime wants to dump DBE, even if prime
doesn't want to self- perform
• 15 of 18 comments favored adding such a
requirement
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OTHER REG PROJECTS
• Final rule doing size inflationary
adjustment already issued
• Refinement of some ownership criteria
• Potential project on PNW inflationary
adjustment
• Airport concessions: sunset/program
review; national car rental goals
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RECENT Q&A'S
• Small business set-asides
• Relationship between certification in
particular types of work and eligibility for
DBE credit to meet a contract goal
• DBE coverage under ARRA (highway,
transit, and airport projects, but not high-speed rail or OST discretionary "Tiger
grants")
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ARRA BONDING PROGRAM
• $20m in ARRA for DBE bonding program,
applying to ARRA-funded DOT projects
• DOT OSDBU worked with SBA to set up joint
program SBA bailed out at last minute
• DOT now working on new version of program.
• Would defray fees for bond premiums and SBA
fees, where SBA program is involved
• Estimate this could be $350k per bond, for
assistance to 1500-2100 DBEs
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ST. LOUIS DUAL GOAL
PROPOSAL
• MODOT and IDOT, prodded by local MBE
community, plan to ask for program waiver to
have separate MBE/WBE goals, rather than a
single DBE goal, on a mega-project for a new
Mississippi River bridge
• Concern is that too few MBEs get work vs. white
female-owned firms
• Some public meetings and work with a
consultant to come up with rationale and
supporting data.
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ST. LOUIS DUAL GOAL
PROPOSAL (2)
• There have been 3 waivers of Pt. 26 prohibition
of group specific goals: CO, CA, OR
• In each case, detailed disparity study showed
overutilization for some groups and
underutilization for others
• There is not yet a disparity study for MO/IL
• Waiver request was supposed to be in already;
apparently data is delayed. First solicitations are
in September.
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